Cameron wants to privatise roads (again)
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SpeedMattersNot said:
Funny, the tone has certaintly changed within the past few months on this forum!
As I posted in another topic at the beginning of the month;
I highlight the second paragraph
It is partly as a result of the mess the last shower left us in, but the Coalition are proving utterly inept as well. As I posted in another topic at the beginning of the month;
I highlight the second paragraph
SpeedMattersNot said:
It’s fascinating how on this forum, of which I believe most people are ‘tories’ fulfilling their middle class dream, there is in fact pure hatred for Miliband yet no love for Cameron or Clegg?
This forum should be full of 'win topics' and 'my life is so much better now' but instead it is infact, in my experience, more negative than it has ever been!
Curious.
Though one person did say their life had improved "ten fold" but didn't go into details This forum should be full of 'win topics' and 'my life is so much better now' but instead it is infact, in my experience, more negative than it has ever been!
Curious.
The major problem is that infrastructure investment is not to coin the term 'sexy'for voters. Hence it does not win votes can you imagine any politican trying to win vote through better investment on the sewage sytem or improving water supply pipelines or any part or the infrastructure. They will sound like a clueless idiot and if they understand the engineering details behind the problems they will sound like a utter bore.
The politicans are so quick jump to moan a complain about lack of infrasturcture investment when something fails like the bridge in london failing due to the steel cable rotting. But balk at the cost of repairs and maintenace. The politicians always cut infrasturcture investment when times are hard, or want money for more appealing short term projects.
This has been going on since the roman empire.
The politicans are so quick jump to moan a complain about lack of infrasturcture investment when something fails like the bridge in london failing due to the steel cable rotting. But balk at the cost of repairs and maintenace. The politicians always cut infrasturcture investment when times are hard, or want money for more appealing short term projects.
This has been going on since the roman empire.
Use Psychology said:
why not just take the same money... a percentage of the total intake from the road fund licence... and er, use it to maintain and build roads... rather than using it to pay someone to slice a bit off and using the left-overs to, er, maintain and build roads.
Quite, presumably because that does not pay off the cronies who paid for the campaign to get them into power, or ensure the rake off for relations and other cronies, ex fags from public school and so on.To turn to the question of why the despondency on PH, it is because the majority have now recognised what some of us warned about pre election, CMD being Bliar Mk2.
We saw hard earned taxes being blown by Labour on useless stuff, we see the same here, just different stuff to some extent. We see massive amounts being spent on the green god, costing again our taxed income.
mrs Thatcher came in with an agenda to pay back the unions and the miners. Not saying it didn't need doing, but it was done very coldly and quite vindictively. However she knew where the limits were. Cameron has come back with the vindicxtive intention of paying back the police for Sheehy, and he is being cold and vindictive about it, but he is that stupid he is doing it at a time when he will need the police, except there won't be any.
Largely members on PH are the sort the nation needs, individuals prepared to work hard, look after themselves and theirs, not be a burden, be enterprising, and yet we continue to get milked of everything and more by these political careerists who have largely done nothing.
As somebody said, watch Question Time to see how vacuous these people are. It's only the cosiness of the Beeb in screening the audience and controlling the audience that prevents them from being ripped apart each week.
Not one of them have common sense or compassion.
Would they survive in a country which didn't have the British attitude of "complain abot problem, well musn't grumble, better get off to work." but had one of genuine revolution, with genuine statesman/woman standing in the wings?
Agreed road usage will have to decline.
One thing home working means though is that you will personally be using more heating and lighting than previously so with those costs rising tax revenue will be helped somewhat from that - clearly it would be notably less than current fuel duty.
If people do work from home then the £30billion they take in will be reduced somewhat likewise the £9billion spend on roads will be reduced
One thing home working means though is that you will personally be using more heating and lighting than previously so with those costs rising tax revenue will be helped somewhat from that - clearly it would be notably less than current fuel duty.
If people do work from home then the £30billion they take in will be reduced somewhat likewise the £9billion spend on roads will be reduced
At what point will the motorist stand up to Road Pricing, Fuel Duty, Rip off insurance prices etc?
Last time when the fuel hit record high prices the commercial sector started blockading fuel depots etc.
Surely something like this must have to happen again? Being self employed with rising motoring costs I have to pass that cost directly onto the Customer
But the rising costs go right across the board, materials that get delivered to suppliers, food to Supermarkets etc, all of it has to increase due to the cost of transport. So when I hear on the news that the cost of inflation is coming down, who the hell are they trying to kid 
It does not take a scientist to work out that if you buy something in one place, transport it to another and then sell it, the transport cost is added to that item. If they attempt to make us pay to use private roads that cost must be added on too!
PS: Good Post FiF
Last time when the fuel hit record high prices the commercial sector started blockading fuel depots etc.
Surely something like this must have to happen again? Being self employed with rising motoring costs I have to pass that cost directly onto the Customer
But the rising costs go right across the board, materials that get delivered to suppliers, food to Supermarkets etc, all of it has to increase due to the cost of transport. So when I hear on the news that the cost of inflation is coming down, who the hell are they trying to kid It does not take a scientist to work out that if you buy something in one place, transport it to another and then sell it, the transport cost is added to that item. If they attempt to make us pay to use private roads that cost must be added on too!
PS: Good Post FiF
Edited by fatboy18 on Wednesday 21st March 08:53
Use Psychology said:
why not just take the same money... a percentage of the total intake from the road fund licence... and er, use it to maintain and build roads... rather than using it to pay someone to slice a bit off and using the left-overs to, er, maintain and build roads.
Because the tw*ts in Government couldn't run a p*ss up in a brewery, let alone any kind of business. If they could, UK Plc wouldn't be in such a poor state! (i.e bankrupt and reliant on our grandchildren to cough up for their ineptitude)Need proof? Just switch over to BBC Parliament!
Edited by MyM8V8 on Wednesday 21st March 10:38
thinfourth2 said:
I'm enjoying watching the tory fanboys slowly realise they have elected Tony Blair Mk2
Did you really expect the Tories to do anything radical with no money and a majority propped up by the wet blanket party? Besides, I think the "Tory fanboys" probably hated Brown more than Blair, so Blair II is an improvement on what they would have got if they'd voted for some single issue fringe party.
That sounds about right. fatboy18 said:
At what point will the motorist stand up to Road Pricing, Fuel Duty, Rip off insurance prices etc?
Last time when the fuel hit record high prices the commercial sector started blockading fuel depots etc.
Surely something like this must have to happen again? ...
I agree, but the Government has made it so that if you did blockade fuel depots, you'll be arrested under homeland anti-terrorism laws. Last time when the fuel hit record high prices the commercial sector started blockading fuel depots etc.
Surely something like this must have to happen again? ...
RichB said:
Elroy Blue said:
He sees the working man as an easy target..
Why? I haven't seen any policies aimed at penalising what you call "the working man" and trust me, I work...otolith said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'm enjoying watching the tory fanboys slowly realise they have elected Tony Blair Mk2
Did you really expect the Tories to do anything radical with no money and a majority propped up by the wet blanket party? Besides, I think the "Tory fanboys" probably hated Brown more than Blair, so Blair II is an improvement on what they would have got if they'd voted for some single issue fringe party.
I hoped they might do something radical.
I was right and vaguely disappointed in being right
VictorMeldrew said:
RichB said:
Elroy Blue said:
He sees the working man as an easy target..
Why? I haven't seen any policies aimed at penalising what you call "the working man" and trust me, I work...I can only hope you are not representative of the majority of people on this forum. For your information, I have NEVER claimed any benefit. While I am one who grew up on a northern council estate, I worked. I served in the Royal Navy. I am now a Police Officer. I have voted Conservative in every election since I was 18.
My wife lost her job 12 months ago (as an eldery care worker in Social Services) thanks to Cameron's policies. Did she immediately trot down the benfefits office. NO!. She didn't claim a thing. She has started her own business providing the same care at a fraction of what she should charge, because she is dedicated to the people she looks after.
On the other hand, I'm one of those ordinary PAYE people who can't employ accountants to hide my earnings, nor am I one of the benefit underclass with no work ethic at all. So in Cameron's view, I'm fair game.
So take your pathetic prejudices elsewhere and understand that as an 'ordinary' working family, Cameron has hit us hard. Maybe I would be better off on the dole. I'll trot off and get my flat cap while I'm at it.
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