Cameron wants to privatise roads (again)

Cameron wants to privatise roads (again)

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Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Elroy Blue said:
So you're unaware of the fact that Cameron increased benefit payments by over 5%
How is that?

Didn't know about the below either.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038898/Sa...

http://rogerhelmermep.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/unb...

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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vonuber said:
Personally I wouldn't be a copper for love nor money, you have a lot of respect from me for doing that job.
+1 for coming onto a pistonheads discussion forum too!

RichB

51,588 posts

284 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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You never dipped in this section? It's the place if you want to discuss issues with the BiB. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Not waded through the whole lot, but back on topic.

I've noticed that when a new bypass is built the road that used to be used effectively gets blocked up with lower speed limits and traffic calming.

So what I expect to happen is some new roads will get built, these will be tolled. The old roads will then be blocked up which then forces people to use the new road(s), pay the toll, pay VED and pay fuel tax.

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

195 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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RichB said:
You never dipped in this section? It's the place if you want to discuss issues with the BiB. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/forum.asp?h=0&a...
Not really, but just did thanks, dropped straight into this one. Absolutely unbelievable!!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Zed 44

1,262 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Willy Nilly said:
Not waded through the whole lot, but back on topic.

I've noticed that when a new bypass is built the road that used to be used effectively gets blocked up with lower speed limits and traffic calming.

So what I expect to happen is some new roads will get built, these will be tolled. The old roads will then be blocked up which then forces people to use the new road(s), pay the toll, pay VED and pay fuel tax.
....and then they get blocked up, the road surface deteriorates and becomes pot holed but the fat cats and shareholders running them continue to get rich. thumbup

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st March 2012
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Cracks me up on the M6 Toll. First sign before you join the M6 Toll says "M6 North, Congestion" then next junction it says "M6 Toll clear"...

Has anyone seen these signs saying different?

The Hitman

2,592 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd March 2012
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VictorMeldrew said:
Why would my common sense be lacking just because I failed to grasp that when you referred the "the Government" you actually meant "the previous Government". A fairly vital distinction omitted in a [current] Government bashing thread wouldn't you think?
No, actually. I wasn't "bashing" anything, I pointed out that the blockades would be dealt with differently now because there are laws in place that can be used that didn't exist before. How is that "bashing" unless you feel that the Con/Dem's wouldn't use that law? Do you believe that they wouldn't?

And going back to the distinctions you put on the Government being "current" and "previous", I'm explain this again. I'm neither right or left...it doesn't matter to me who's in the majority, its still THE Government. A lot of the MPs in Parliament were there while Labour was in power, including Cameron and Clegg. Those are your distinctions, not mine.

Well, regardless of what I've said up until now you've seemed to have made your position clear.

Edited by The Hitman on Thursday 22 March 00:22

FiF

Original Poster:

44,092 posts

251 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Sorry for the thread necro, and get it back on topic after the serious diversion but

Proposing to put tolls on the A14 in Cambridgeshire

eccles

13,738 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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FiF said:
Sorry for the thread necro, and get it back on topic after the serious diversion but

Proposing to put tolls on the A14 in Cambridgeshire
Never trust a tory!

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Well, the general public voted them in!

...oh wait...

mondeoman

11,430 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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FiF said:
Sorry for the thread necro, and get it back on topic after the serious diversion but

Proposing to put tolls on the A14 in Cambridgeshire
I thought this comment was hilarious
shropshirelad said:
12 minutes ago
IF and thats a bif IF you read what has been announced you will find the toll road is ONLY for freight and the new roads that run alongside, which will be free are for local traffic and non paying traffic. Why do you insist on trying to get everyone so angry when this is a sensible solution. Freightiers pay and the public dont.
just tell me who buys the stuff the freighters haul??

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

157 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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SpeedMattersNot said:
Well, the general public voted them in!

...oh wait...
Labour kept threatening road pricing too, usually to divert people away from complaining about fuel duty and then quietly forgetting about it. The lib-dems seem to favour it as well, so that leaves, err UKIP or Respect to vote for then. . . . . .


otolith

56,144 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Labour like the idea of road charging for the control and the revenue, LibDems like it because it's a chance to stick the boot into the motorist, Tories like it because they may be able to remove some infrastructure provision from the public sector.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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electorate like it because...?

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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We're masochists?

Caulkhead said:
Labour kept threatening road pricing too, usually to divert people away from complaining about fuel duty and then quietly forgetting about it. The lib-dems seem to favour it as well, so that leaves, err UKIP or Respect to vote for then. . . . . .
So we're all gonna vote for UKip then?

otolith

56,144 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Use Psychology said:
electorate like it because...?
The alternative is to lump it!

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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mondeoman said:
just tell me who buys the stuff the freighters haul??
What other suggestion do you have for:

1. Ensuring that the vehicles that damage/wear the roads most pay most for their use; and

2. Levelling the playing field for UK and foreign hauliers.

At the moment, the Europeans don't contribute anything to the UK and benefit from cheaper fuel.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

157 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Halb said:
We're masochists?

Caulkhead said:
Labour kept threatening road pricing too, usually to divert people away from complaining about fuel duty and then quietly forgetting about it. The lib-dems seem to favour it as well, so that leaves, err UKIP or Respect to vote for then. . . . . .
So we're all gonna vote for UKip then?
Their manifesto doesn't mention road-pricing so I'd like to see their position first. . . . .

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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johnfm said:
What other suggestion do you have for:

1. Ensuring that the vehicles that damage/wear the roads most pay most for their use; and

2. Levelling the playing field for UK and foreign hauliers.

At the moment, the Europeans don't contribute anything to the UK and benefit from cheaper fuel.
Okay lets look at the horror of the European lorry in the uk

Where are they going?

Well it has to be somewhere in the UK as we are an island so they can't get anywhere from here


Why are they in the UK?

To deliver or pick something up from a UK business


What happens if we charge them a million pounds to use UK roads?

They pass the costs onto the business as they aren't operated by eccentric rich idiots


Would this extra costs effect UK businesses?

No st sherlock