Surveillance state, check - secret trials, check

[Jimbeaux]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Rest easy, is is not in the top 20 of the monitoring que.....it is 234.

[AJS-]

Jimbeaux said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Rest easy, is is not in the top 20 of the monitoring que.....it is 234.

We canned it in the end anyway. Will keep an eye on key participants for a month or two, but doubt anything will come of it. Useful test project for the grads.

[SystemParanoia]

Death to parliament!

monitor that!!

[ApexJimi]

SystemParanoia said:

i encrypt everything i can.

yeah they can crack it.. but that extra effort for no results so costs them a bit more in man hours. nosey bds

Never has a username been more apt

[Engineer1]

ApexJimi said:

SystemParanoia said:

i encrypt everything i can.

yeah they can crack it.. but that extra effort for no results so costs them a bit more in man hours. nosey bds

Never has a username been more apt

IIRC they can demand to be given the decryption key. If you don't give it up then they imprison you.

[randlemarcus]

Engineer1 said:

IIRC they can demand to be given the decryption key. If you don't give it up then they imprison you.

You recall perfectly correctly. However, there are nuances. SP will give up the key when asked, he just doesn't want them reading it without his knowledge. And I suspect he will use different encryption for most things

The more serious point is that yes, it is a criminal offence not to give up the decryption keys when asked so to do. But it only carries a 2 year sentence. Imagine you have funded and signed off a terrorist action, and have your little USB stick with all the records. You get nicked, and are looking at life - if you hand over the keys. There is no other evidence.

Hand them over, and get out when you are bedbound. Or clam up, and serve a year?

[Ozzie Osmond]

randlemarcus said:

it is a criminal offence not to give up the decryption keys when asked so to do. But it only carries a 2 year sentence.

.... unless it's a matter of "national security" when the sentence becomes 5 years.
What's "national security"?
Whatever they say it is!!

The innocent have nothing to fear.....

[WhoseGeneration]

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