BBC Breakfast News this morning. All about the Titanic.
Discussion
BigBen said:
Whilst that is undoubtedly true it had a few unique points, firstly it was said to be 'unsinkable' and secondly it was its maiden voyage. Thirdly there was quite a successful film about it a few years back which re-sparked interest.
Ben
Apparently according to a recent BBC article, it was never said to have been unsinkable before it actually sunk. It's something that has been perpetuated after it sank.Ben
AndrewW-G said:
Unsurprisingly, I cant remember seeing much to remember Bruce Ismay locally, even though he lived in both Liverpool and just down the road from here in Thurstaston (opposite the pub we have the Wirral Pistonheads gatherings at)
I used to Bike the Wirral way, all the way around the Peninsular. Like Thurstaston. Nice wee place. Me and my bro used to go to the cottage loaf, if it is still called that.TheHeretic said:
AndrewW-G said:
Unsurprisingly, I cant remember seeing much to remember Bruce Ismay locally, even though he lived in both Liverpool and just down the road from here in Thurstaston (opposite the pub we have the Wirral Pistonheads gatherings at)
I used to Bike the Wirral way, all the way around the Peninsular. Like Thurstaston. Nice wee place. jurbie said:
I live in Stoke on Trent which is Captain Smiths home town and no one has said a word about it. Normally you celebrate an individuals achievements and surely there is no greater achievement then sinking an unsinkable ship?
Stokies will crash into anything, how often is there a good size crash on the D road?Its true theres been other shipwrecks which have cost more lives but the Titanic is a truly remarkable story in every way, a story which still fascinates people a century on. Its important to stress the only people who labelled it 'unsinkable' were the media, White Star Line never said that although the Captain was on record as saying he can conceive of no reason for the Titanic to sink, which is good. If the Captain said it would sink I dont think they'd have sold many tickets
The ship's sheer size and engineering was remarkable and the fact such a landmark vessel sank on its first journey is a major part of why its still such a big story. And it was built in Britain don't forget. The story itself is fascinating because in hindsight theres so many small things you can look at and say 'if that was done differently it wouldn't of happened' etc. The Titanic's sinking was also the catalyst for much maritime law which is still in force today.
The ship's sheer size and engineering was remarkable and the fact such a landmark vessel sank on its first journey is a major part of why its still such a big story. And it was built in Britain don't forget. The story itself is fascinating because in hindsight theres so many small things you can look at and say 'if that was done differently it wouldn't of happened' etc. The Titanic's sinking was also the catalyst for much maritime law which is still in force today.
hyperblue said:
Eric Mc said:
The monument was made in the 1920s but his home town didn't want it back then. So it ended up in Lichfield. Now the home town would like it but Lichfield isn't planning on letting it go.
It could be quite telling that people at the time didn't want the statue of him.In those times people felt shame.
It's a concept we don't understand today. These days there is no infamy, only fame.
It probably won't be long before Sheffield erects a statue to commemorate the Yorkshire Ripper.
These days we view the Titanic's story with a bit of romance, for want of a better word. What we forget and what is also remarkable is the stories of those who made it back. Several never recovered from what they saw and committed suicide. Children grew up in poverty because their fathers perished and women didn't have any money in those days. Plenty of those who did survive later wished they hadn't.
Noger said:
Eric Mc said:
As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".
And yet crack a "joke" about deaths during the troubles, and they would be wallowing in self pity.As I said in the other thread, had 700 scousers died it would be a very different picture today.
Eric Mc said:
Noger said:
Eric Mc said:
As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".
And yet crack a "joke" about deaths during the troubles, and they would be wallowing in self pity.As I said in the other thread, had 700 scousers died it would be a very different picture today.
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