BBC Breakfast News this morning. All about the Titanic.

BBC Breakfast News this morning. All about the Titanic.

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Steameh

3,155 posts

211 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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BigBen said:
Whilst that is undoubtedly true it had a few unique points, firstly it was said to be 'unsinkable' and secondly it was its maiden voyage. Thirdly there was quite a successful film about it a few years back which re-sparked interest.

Ben
Apparently according to a recent BBC article, it was never said to have been unsinkable before it actually sunk. It's something that has been perpetuated after it sank.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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B Huey said:
There's a statue of Captain Smith in Lichfield.

confused
Why litchfield? My stoke friends were quite proud he came from there according to them.

Eric Mc

122,056 posts

266 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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The monument was made in the 1920s but his home town didn't want it back then. So it ended up in Lichfield. Now the home town would like it but Lichfield isn't planning on letting it go.

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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There is currently an excellent Titanic exhibition on over here in SG - well worth a look if u are here. On Tuesday last week 2223 Chinese lanterns were lit at the Marina to commemorate all those onboard.

My personal view is historic events like this are worth media coverage.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Unsurprisingly, I cant remember seeing much to remember Bruce Ismay locally, even though he lived in both Liverpool and just down the road from here in Thurstaston (opposite the pub we have the Wirral Pistonheads gatherings at)

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Unsurprisingly, I cant remember seeing much to remember Bruce Ismay locally, even though he lived in both Liverpool and just down the road from here in Thurstaston (opposite the pub we have the Wirral Pistonheads gatherings at)
I used to Bike the Wirral way, all the way around the Peninsular. Like Thurstaston. Nice wee place. Me and my bro used to go to the cottage loaf, if it is still called that.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
AndrewW-G said:
Unsurprisingly, I cant remember seeing much to remember Bruce Ismay locally, even though he lived in both Liverpool and just down the road from here in Thurstaston (opposite the pub we have the Wirral Pistonheads gatherings at)
I used to Bike the Wirral way, all the way around the Peninsular. Like Thurstaston. Nice wee place.
In which case you'll have been past where his house was, it was part of the small cluster of large houses opposite the Cottage Loaf smile

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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jurbie said:
I live in Stoke on Trent which is Captain Smiths home town and no one has said a word about it. Normally you celebrate an individuals achievements and surely there is no greater achievement then sinking an unsinkable ship?
Stokies will crash into anything, how often is there a good size crash on the D road?

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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It's an easy, lazy time filler that saves them having to be proper journalists and go and find a story and angle on something else.

hyperblue

2,802 posts

181 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
The monument was made in the 1920s but his home town didn't want it back then. So it ended up in Lichfield. Now the home town would like it but Lichfield isn't planning on letting it go.
It could be quite telling that people at the time didn't want the statue of him.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Its true theres been other shipwrecks which have cost more lives but the Titanic is a truly remarkable story in every way, a story which still fascinates people a century on. Its important to stress the only people who labelled it 'unsinkable' were the media, White Star Line never said that although the Captain was on record as saying he can conceive of no reason for the Titanic to sink, which is good. If the Captain said it would sink I dont think they'd have sold many tickets rolleyes

The ship's sheer size and engineering was remarkable and the fact such a landmark vessel sank on its first journey is a major part of why its still such a big story. And it was built in Britain don't forget. The story itself is fascinating because in hindsight theres so many small things you can look at and say 'if that was done differently it wouldn't of happened' etc. The Titanic's sinking was also the catalyst for much maritime law which is still in force today.

Eric Mc

122,056 posts

266 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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hyperblue said:
Eric Mc said:
The monument was made in the 1920s but his home town didn't want it back then. So it ended up in Lichfield. Now the home town would like it but Lichfield isn't planning on letting it go.
It could be quite telling that people at the time didn't want the statue of him.
Absolutely.

In those times people felt shame.

It's a concept we don't understand today. These days there is no infamy, only fame.
It probably won't be long before Sheffield erects a statue to commemorate the Yorkshire Ripper.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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These days we view the Titanic's story with a bit of romance, for want of a better word. What we forget and what is also remarkable is the stories of those who made it back. Several never recovered from what they saw and committed suicide. Children grew up in poverty because their fathers perished and women didn't have any money in those days. Plenty of those who did survive later wished they hadn't.

MiniMan64

16,942 posts

191 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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I must the building in Belfast is pretty impressive.


Eric Mc

122,056 posts

266 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".
And yet crack a "joke" about deaths during the troubles, and they would be wallowing in self pity.

As I said in the other thread, had 700 scousers died it would be a very different picture today.



Eric Mc

122,056 posts

266 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Noger said:
Eric Mc said:
As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".
And yet crack a "joke" about deaths during the troubles, and they would be wallowing in self pity.

As I said in the other thread, had 700 scousers died it would be a very different picture today.
I'm sure there must have been a few on board.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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White Star Line was founded in Liverpool, so yes. Should have called there on the maiden voyage too.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Noger said:
Eric Mc said:
As the Belfast people say "It was alright when it left here".
And yet crack a "joke" about deaths during the troubles, and they would be wallowing in self pity.

As I said in the other thread, had 700 scousers died it would be a very different picture today.
I'm sure there must have been a few on board.
yes not of course forgetting where Titanic was registered and where the owner lived smile

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Still doesn't alter the fact that 3/4 of the crew were from Southampton.

A third of the total deaths. 538 out of the 685 crew deaths.