BBC Breakfast News this morning. All about the Titanic.

BBC Breakfast News this morning. All about the Titanic.

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Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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It's all a bit cringeworthy, especially the BBC's fawning about it for what feels like weeks now. But, the british public love a bit of grief - even if it is for something they probably only remember thanks to a James Cameron film. Still, I'm sure an arbitrary anniversary will help them no end despite the fact there's been no shortage of far worse disasters over the years.

Eric Mc said:
Noger said:
Having just been to the Titanic exhibition in Singapore, the "practically unsinkable" tag came from an article in Shipbuilder magazine in 1911.
What connection has Singapore got to the Titanic?
Probably just as much as it has with Las Vegas, where you'll also find a Titanic exhibition, in addition to as Hong Kong, Chicago, Melbourne, and various other places. It's just a nice way to hoover out some pockets and to display some plundered spoons and the like.

Edited by Stu R on Monday 16th April 00:02

Derek Smith

45,704 posts

249 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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The story that bears repeating is that of Violet Jessops. Her claim to fame was that she was (a nurse?) on the maiden voyage of the Olympic, sister ship of the Titanic when it struck an RN ship on its way out into the Solent, suffering serious damage. Not sure what happened to the other ship but if memeory serves it too was seriously damaged.

Olympic returned to dock for major repairs and she was drafted on board the Titanic when it sailed a couple of years later. I won't spoil the story for anyone following the television series but she was rescued by the Carpathia.

She then served on the Britannic, a hospital ship, in WWI. The ship was torpedoed/struck a mine in the Med and she, by now quite proficient at getting out of sinking ships, got into a lifeboat but somehow managed to be hit on the head by the Britannic. She survived. I seem to remember reading that the Britannic struck a mine but it was felt it helped the war effort to suggest it was a sumbarine that sank it. Not too sure of the logic myself.

VJ was, not to put a fine point on it, the kiss of death to ships.

She was told by a crew member of the Titanic to put on her lifejacket to show the 3rd class how to go about it and to encourage them into the lifeboats. This rather contradicts the stories of the 3rd class being abandoned.

There's a book about her, probably long out of print. It was a bit of an effort to read.

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Derek Smith said:
I won't spoil the story for anyone following the television series but she was rescued by the Carpathia.
Because that's not spoiled it at all...

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Noger said:
Having just been to the Titanic exhibition in Singapore, the "practically unsinkable" tag came from an article in Shipbuilder magazine in 1911.
What connection has Singapore got to the Titanic?
modern day "Titanic" perched on top of a Hotel smile

..or maybe it's an ark if the sea level rises 100m ...............

google for Marina Bay Sands images

Cupramax

10,482 posts

253 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Ah, my thread has finally arrived biggrin I'd just like to add that I'm also sick of having Titanic rammed down my throat by the Beeb. Living in Poole I get South Today as the evening local news show, or should I say Titanic today as I've renamed it. Over the past month (yes I'm sad I know) I've kept a log of how many articles or mentions in shows its had 24 yes twenty fking four in the last month. JUST GIVE IT A REST. smash

Eric Mc

122,056 posts

266 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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At least it's a break from the Olympics (but wasn't that a White Star Liner too?).

JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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It's been non stop Titanic in N Ireland for a few years now. What you hear in the rest of UK is just the tip of the iceberg.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
At least it's a break from the Olympics (but wasn't that a White Star Liner too?).
Brittanic pun old chap wink

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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JuniorD said:
It's been non stop Titanic in N Ireland for a few years now. What you hear in the rest of UK is just the tip of the iceberg.
I sea what you did there.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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carmonk said:
Icy what you did there.
EFA

carmonk

7,910 posts

188 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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alfaman said:
carmonk said:
Icy what you did there.
EFA
Holey ship, you got me there.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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martin84 said:
Thats it I'm ignoring this thread now. Any sensible mod would close it after comments like yours.

Goodbye.




matchmaker

8,497 posts

201 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Can anyone explain to my WHY there is so much fascination with this ship? I mean, other ships have sunk with significantly higher loss of life?!?
Titanic still has the 7th highest death toll for a peacetime sinking.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Why does everyone say it sank on its maiden voyage?

What was the Belfast - Southampton voyage then?

And the Southampton - Cherbourg voyage, and the Cherbourg - Cork one?




There were two separate docus on TV here about it last night, enough already!


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
Why does everyone say it sank on its maiden voyage?
The "voyage" was from Southampton to New York with stops at Cherbourg and Cork....

over_the_hill

3,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Derek Smith said:
I seem to remember reading that the Britannic struck a mine but it was felt it helped the war effort to suggest it was a sumbarine that sank it. Not too sure of the logic myself.
Probably because if you are sunk by a Sub it's the crafty Hun sneaking up on you which just isn't cricket, whereas if you hit a mine it's the bloke driving not looking where he's going.

Regiment

2,799 posts

160 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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over_the_hill said:
Probably because if you are sunk by a Sub it's the crafty Hun sneaking up on you which just isn't cricket, whereas if you hit a mine it's the bloke driving not looking where he's going.
The Titanic sinking 'only' killed 1500 or so people, the sinking of the Lusitania is one of the primary reasons for the USA entering 'The Great War'. There was never anything special about the Titanic other than it hit a block of ice and sank, there were far bigger ships just a short while later like the Queen Mary that dwarfed the Titanic and went on to have many years of great service, ferring passengers, cargo and troops.

JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Ah but the Queen Mary made the fatal mistake of not sinking!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th April 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Ayahuasca said:
Why does everyone say it sank on its maiden voyage?
The "voyage" was from Southampton to New York with stops at Cherbourg and Cork....
Not if you bought a Southampton - Cork / Cherbourg ticket.



It was its maiden Atlantic crossing, not its maiden voyage.