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CommanderJameson said:
Himself.
So if I'm Jewish, and I do a piece based on the Nazi propaganda posters from WW2, does my very Jewishness render the whole thing not racist at all?
No, it does not.
So if I'm Jewish, and I do a piece based on the Nazi propaganda posters from WW2, does my very Jewishness render the whole thing not racist at all?
No, it does not.
It's a cake done by an African artist in an African style. How is that racist? It's a bit odd to cut it, as it's meant to highlight female circumcision, but I guess that's the point of the red sponge.Either it's a massive own goal by the Association of African Swedes or some cunning faux-outrage for the publicity.
Everyone's a winner.
The artist will recieve massive coverage for her business and also her cause against female circumcision. Good for her.
The lobby group by chiming in with a stance will be hugely elevated in the public concious. Well done them.
The white MP will get extra coverage over her competitors and be able to announce her political views to a wider and listening audience. Good move.
All in everyone involved is a winner and has gained a huge amount of publicity in order to further their personal gains and ambitions.
The artist will recieve massive coverage for her business and also her cause against female circumcision. Good for her.
The lobby group by chiming in with a stance will be hugely elevated in the public concious. Well done them.
The white MP will get extra coverage over her competitors and be able to announce her political views to a wider and listening audience. Good move.
All in everyone involved is a winner and has gained a huge amount of publicity in order to further their personal gains and ambitions.
CommanderJameson said:
elster said:
It seems the artist is a racist against herself...
Himself.So if I'm Jewish, and I do a piece based on the Nazi propaganda posters from WW2, does my very Jewishness render the whole thing not racist at all?
No, it does not.
Marf said:
telecat said:
Great publicity for a good cause. Female Circumcision is Mutilation.
So is male circumcision.Needless backwards medieval procedure totally un called for in a modern world and an utter travesty that the law discriminates against male babys.
AndrewW-G said:
Marf said:
telecat said:
Great publicity for a good cause. Female Circumcision is Mutilation.
So is male circumcision.Needless backwards medieval procedure totally un called for in a modern world and an utter travesty that the law discriminates against male babys.
Even then it is questionable whether a full circ is necessary, usually a triple incision procedure which relieves the tightness but removes no skin will suffice.
Anything else carried out on a male minor in the absence of a medical diagnosis for religious or cultural reasons is mutilation.
ALL forms of female circumcision, including a ritual pin prick which merely draws blood, are rightly illegal.
How can it be right that legally you can strip 50+% of the skin from a males penis, but it is illegal to pin prick a female childs clitoral prepuce which causes no damage or loss of sensation? It's crazy, and another example of religious nonsense taking precedence over common sense.
Edited by Marf on Wednesday 18th April 11:55
CommanderJameson said:
....why in heaven's name is that deemed to be racist.....the friggen world have gone friggen mad......FFS.
k did he think the reaction would be?Marf said:
In my view circumcision is a medical procedure carried out following medical diagnosis of phimosis, balanitis, paraphimosis etc and is a last resort after other treatments(stretching+steroid cream) have failed.
Even then it is questionable whether a full circ is necessary, usually a triple incision procedure which relieves the tightness but removes no skin will suffice.
Anything else carried out on a male minor in the absence of a medical diagnosis for religious or cultural reasons is mutilation.
ALL forms of female circumcision, including a ritual pin prick which merely draws blood, are rightly illegal.
How can it be right that legally you can strip 50+% of the skin from a males penis, but it is illegal to pin prick a female childs clitoral prepuce which causes no damage or loss of sensation? It's crazy, and another example of religious nonsense taking precedence over common sense.
Even then it is questionable whether a full circ is necessary, usually a triple incision procedure which relieves the tightness but removes no skin will suffice.
Anything else carried out on a male minor in the absence of a medical diagnosis for religious or cultural reasons is mutilation.
ALL forms of female circumcision, including a ritual pin prick which merely draws blood, are rightly illegal.
How can it be right that legally you can strip 50+% of the skin from a males penis, but it is illegal to pin prick a female childs clitoral prepuce which causes no damage or loss of sensation? It's crazy, and another example of religious nonsense taking precedence over common sense.
Edited by Marf on Wednesday 18th April 11:55
I'd recommend people watch this episode of Penn and Teller on the issue of circumcision. Warning, they actually show a child being circumcised, (the fact it needs a warning should tell you something).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLGcqPE7xu0
12gauge said:
Its symbolic, innit? Like a big swastika cake.
Why they couldnt hand out some flyers on genital mutilation, i dont know. Guess that would be too normal and cost effective.
So what was the MP to do?Why they couldnt hand out some flyers on genital mutilation, i dont know. Guess that would be too normal and cost effective.
Can you imagine the spin on the story if he's refused to have anything to do with the black artist using traditional african art to highlight a massive African problem?
CommanderJameson said:
Is it racist to have a sudden desire for toast and marmalade? 
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