Parents blame hospitals for rickets death

Parents blame hospitals for rickets death

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matchmaker

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8,497 posts

201 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-177809...

So how the fk did your kid develop fking rickets? furiousfurious

Happy82

15,077 posts

170 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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How did I guess the child would have a name like that rolleyes

Targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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My cousin's ex has 3 kids by 3 Fathers, she is the absolute worst kind of Mother/benefits stereotype you can imagine. Anyway, his daughter is around 4 and doctors said she was a borderline rickets case. He visits when he can, and takes them outside into the sunshine, gives them all the best nutrition. However she simply does not give a F. So I can see how this happened. Lack of sterilsation of certain people.

brickwall

5,250 posts

211 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Read the judgement. This case is exceptionally complicated, and we are in no position to judge the parents.

Over 60 expert, medical and professional witnesses couldn't agree on:
a) Whether the rickets was congenital, developmental or caused by malnutrition
b) How significant a factor the rickets was in cause of death


The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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brickwall said:
Read the judgement. This case is exceptionally complicated, and we are in no position to judge the parents.

Over 60 expert, medical and professional witnesses couldn't agree on:
a) Whether the rickets was congenital, developmental or caused by malnutrition
b) How significant a factor the rickets was in cause of death
Quite. The parents were aquitted, and it sounds as if some of the doctors dropped a bk.
Sad case all around, but it certainly sounds to have not been handled well.

markh1973

1,814 posts

169 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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They are costing the state money as the Local Authority are fighting through the courts to keep their other child in care.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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matchmaker said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-177809...

So how the fk did your kid develop fking rickets? furiousfurious
Is it because they is Black?


Actually it probably is as those of a darker skin colour aren't adapted to making Vitamin D in our amount of sunlight.

brickwall

5,250 posts

211 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Calls for a public inquiry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-177809...

Something here makes me think this might be multiple failings by multiple people from multiple institutions.

Cut and dried PH parent-bashing case it is not.

cwis

1,159 posts

180 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Is it because they is Black?


Actually it probably is as those of a darker skin colour aren't adapted to making Vitamin D in our amount of sunlight.
Could be a combination of things - zinc is required to metabolize vitamin D for example. I would say 4 months is a bit young for it to be anything other than congential...

But hey - I'm not a Doctor or a social worker, and after reading about cases like this, I'm glad I am not.

Eric Mc

122,055 posts

266 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Just seen the parents on TV and, whilst they may not challenge Einsteen in a debate on relativity, they do seem a pretty normal and respectable couple.

They certainly don't fall into a "Benefits Scrounger/Council Estate Spongers" stereotype.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

247 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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They came across very well on Today this morning. The whole case sounds to have been very poorly handled - with awful consequences.

nigel_bytes

557 posts

237 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Is it because they is Black?


Actually it probably is as those of a darker skin colour aren't adapted to making Vitamin D in our amount of sunlight.

Rubbish !

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16097949

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

199 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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From what I have read (which isn't everything, so I reserve the right to change my opinion in the light of further information), I'd say they had some compensation comming, yes. If the state mishandles things very badly, then the citizen should be compensated.

As for lawyer fees, and the amount of compensation which may be awarded, I fail to see how that's related. That's an issue with the legal system generally, not specific to this case.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Just seen the parents on TV and, whilst they may not challenge Einsteen in a debate on relativity, they do seem a pretty normal and respectable couple.

They certainly don't fall into a "Benefits Scrounger/Council Estate Spongers" stereotype.
From bbc

"It is difficult to hear of a more astonishing ordeal than that endured by the parents of baby Jayden.

Accused of murdering their first child who died of natural causes, the couple had to suffer the shock of seeing their second baby taken away in the delivery room and taken into care.

They were acquitted of murder at the Old Bailey last December but have not been able to speak until now due to their family court battle to have their baby daughter Jayda returned to them.

That fight ended successfully on Thursday. For almost three years, they were treated as murder suspects not only by police and medical experts but also strangers in the street who recognised them from newspaper reports.

Both parents want their story told and an inquiry held to help other innocent parents in similar circumstances.

Solicitors and other medical experts say there are many other parents also accused of abuse and murder of children where rickets is later found to be the cause."

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Mojocvh said:
Eric Mc said:
Just seen the parents on TV and, whilst they may not challenge Einsteen in a debate on relativity, they do seem a pretty normal and respectable couple.

They certainly don't fall into a "Benefits Scrounger/Council Estate Spongers" stereotype.
From bbc

"It is difficult to hear of a more astonishing ordeal than that endured by the parents of baby Jayden.

Accused of murdering their first child who died of natural causes, the couple had to suffer the shock of seeing their second baby taken away in the delivery room and taken into care.

They were acquitted of murder at the Old Bailey last December but have not been able to speak until now due to their family court battle to have their baby daughter Jayda returned to them.

That fight ended successfully on Thursday. For almost three years, they were treated as murder suspects not only by police and medical experts but also strangers in the street who recognised them from newspaper reports.

Both parents want their story told and an inquiry held to help other innocent parents in similar circumstances.

Solicitors and other medical experts say there are many other parents also accused of abuse and murder of children where rickets is later found to be the cause."
There you go, Tonker - Clearly blamed on "Tory Cuts"....

M.

BrassMan

1,484 posts

190 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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^^Cuts which apparently took effect nearly a year before CMD took office. That's some powerful cutting.