UKIP PP broadcast

[wiggy001]

eharding said:

deeps said:

Just before the last election I tried to drum up support for UKIP, but the wasted vote excuse was used by many, talking to those same people now and they have changed their tune, the snowball is gathering momentum.

Well, thanks for that.

Owing to your efforts, we now have Vince Cable in the cabinet.

Feeling pleased with yourself as a result of that, 'kiptard?

Although not very optimistic, I'm hoping that the last general election was the first step in getting the kind of government I want. I really hope there are a lot of people that want the Tories of old and will vote for UKIP in the next election. It's possible we may then go through a Tory/UKIP coalition before getting a decent centre/right government.

Like I say, I won't hold my breath...

[Einion Yrth]

It does seem to me that the 'vote UKIP, get Labour' fox has been comprehensively shot, since with the current shower of ste implementing much the same authoritarian, tax and spend, social democratic lunacy as the last lot the only answer possible for someone of a vaguely libertarian bent is 'so effing what they are all the same'. The election of that loon Galloway (yes I know, by-election - doesn't count - etc. etc.) shows that the party of the unholy trinity can be beaten, and I cannot in conscience continue to vote for the liblabcon any longer. I shall be voting UKIP because, frankly it's pretty much the only option left.

[TallbutBuxomly]

wiggy001 said:

Although not very optimistic, I'm hoping that the last general election was the first step in getting the kind of government I want. I really hope there are a lot of people that want the Tories of old and will vote for UKIP in the next election. It's possible we may then go through a Tory/UKIP coalition before getting a decent centre/right government.

Like I say, I won't hold my breath...

This is the way i am going. I have a choice libcon or ukipcon. Rather ukipcon than lib.

Since this new gov came in I have been wondering which party really has the majority as most of the policies have a nasty stench of libdem or libdem watering down about them.

We KNOW Ukip have an intense dislike for the EU and if they got into a coalition they would do everything they could to get us as far away from the EU as possible unlike the lib dems who are desperate to be a part of the eu gravy train to secure their future cushy jobs and huge pensions.

[oyster]

odyssey2200 said:

TallbutBuxomly said:

You work for the tories in their pr department dont you? Go on admit it we wont hold it against you. We like the tories we are just tired of them not doing what we want being Tories anymore.

EFA

Edited by odyssey2200 on Friday 27th April 09:41

I think you're confusing Tory with Thatcherite. Look at the policies and approaches of Eden, Churchill, MacMillan, Douglas Home, Heath and Major - Cameron is more like these.

[bennyboydurham]

I don't disagree with the sentiment on this thread; I like the cut of Farage's jib and much of the thrust of UKIP policy I agree with. But the realist in me knows that voting UKIP gets me precisely what I don't want and that in reality I might as well be voting for CND Milliband or 'til the pips squeak' Ballsack.

Dave is no Thatcher but he's the product of a hostile media which is institutionally left-wing and naturally hostile to any form of Conservatism. I work in the media and to my Grauniad-reading, granola-munching mates in the BBC my right of centre Libertarianism puts me somewhere to the right of Mussolini and Nick Griffin. Do not underestimate the vested interests and placemen that the Left have sowed all over the fabric of this country, which makes it damned hard for anyone with rightist views to make any progress. You're seeing it now in action in the BBC, the NHS, the civil service and even to the point where insitutions that were entirely non politicised such as the Police, the judiciary (Kier Starmer, anyone?) and the Forces have all been infiltrated by the Left's placemen. I don't see that the way to clean up this taint on the fabric of our society is to let in wave of Labour governments with a pointless protest vote. I'd rather choose sirloin on the menu and get rump than demanding fillet and ending up with gristle....

[Guybrush]

bennyboydurham said:

I don't disagree with the sentiment on this thread; I like the cut of Farage's jib and much of the thrust of UKIP policy I agree with. But the realist in me knows that voting UKIP gets me precisely what I don't want and that in reality I might as well be voting for CND Milliband or 'til the pips squeak' Ballsack.

Dave is no Thatcher but he's the product of a hostile media which is institutionally left-wing and naturally hostile to any form of Conservatism. I work in the media and to my Grauniad-reading, granola-munching mates in the BBC my right of centre Libertarianism puts me somewhere to the right of Mussolini and Nick Griffin. Do not underestimate the vested interests and placemen that the Left have sowed all over the fabric of this country, which makes it damned hard for anyone with rightist views to make any progress. You're seeing it now in action in the BBC, the NHS, the civil service and even to the point where insitutions that were entirely non politicised such as the Police, the judiciary (Kier Starmer, anyone?) and the Forces have all been infiltrated by the Left's placemen. I don't see that the way to clean up this taint on the fabric of our society is to let in wave of Labour governments with a pointless protest vote. I'd rather choose sirloin on the menu and get rump than demanding fillet and ending up with gristle....

Quite true - and they (the left) are very good at the old brainwashing trick of constant drip feed 'opinion-forming' subliminal nudges. The Conservatives have a hell of a job reducing Labour's deficit and fighting the drag of the forces of the left which never change no matter who is in government.

[zip929]

chris watton said:

That's exactly what we have in government now! I most certainly am not happy - that's why I did something that I have never in my 45 years done before, and actually pay to join a party because I am so pissed off with the three left wing flavours we have now - UKIP is my only real choice.

And I am following you. The main parties seem to have lost the plot.
I am sick of the crap that is coming over from Europe, and that we have no choice but to comply with.

Edited by zip929 on Tuesday 1st May 20:08

[AJS-]

bennyboydurham said:

Dave is no Thatcher but he's the product of a hostile media which is institutionally left-wing and naturally hostile to any form of Conservatism.

Is that true of all the media though? Definitely the BBC, and probably TV as a whole. The newspapers and online media seem to have more of a conservative bent though.

[Elroy Blue]

bennyboydurham said:

and even to the point where insitutions that were entirely non politicised such as the Police, the judiciary (Kier Starmer, anyone?) and the Forces have all been infiltrated by the Left's placemen. ..

I'm afraid you're barking completeky up the wrong tree there.

Nobosy has 'infiltrated' the Police or Armed Forces. They have both been subject to a vindictive attack by an inept and clueless individual. Cameron has harboured resentment for the Police since he got his nose bloodied through the Sheehy report. Now he's able, he's giving payback. As a lifelong (until now) Conservative voter, I've never believed that the Tories want to privatise everything, but from what I see happening in the Police now, it's clear that his intention is to do that to whatever he can.

To a man and woman, every Police Officer I knew was a Conservative. I don't know a single one that would vote for him now.

The armed forces aren't a vote winner. The vast majority of people don't care about them. As such they are discounted by Cameron. I'm still very good friends with many of the people I joined the Forces with. The things they talk about are just depressing. They too feel betrayed by a man that talked about restoring the 'covenant'.

Cameron knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Increasing benefits is buying votes in exactly the same way as Brown used to do. At least Brown had the excuse he was barking mad. My vote will never return to the Conservatives as long as Cameron is at the head of it.

[powerstroke]

Elroy Blue said:

bennyboydurham said:

and even to the point where insitutions that were entirely non politicised such as the Police, the judiciary (Kier Starmer, anyone?) and the Forces have all been infiltrated by the Left's placemen. ..

I'm afraid you're barking completeky up the wrong tree there.

Nobosy has 'infiltrated' the Police or Armed Forces. They have both been subject to a vindictive attack by an inept and clueless individual. Cameron has harboured resentment for the Police since he got his nose bloodied through the Sheehy report. Now he's able, he's giving payback. As a lifelong (until now) Conservative voter, I've never believed that the Tories want to privatise everything, but from what I see happening in the Police now, it's clear that his intention is to do that to whatever he can.

To a man and woman, every Police Officer I knew was a Conservative. I don't know a single one that would vote for him now.

The armed forces aren't a vote winner. The vast majority of people don't care about them. As such they are discounted by Cameron. I'm still very good friends with many of the people I joined the Forces with. The things they talk about are just depressing. They too feel betrayed by a man that talked about restoring the 'covenant'.

Cameron knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

Increasing benefits is buying votes in exactly the same way as Brown used to do. At least Brown had the excuse he was barking mad. My vote will never return to the Conservatives as long as Cameron is at the head of it.

Yes it's bloody shamefull , I guess the only thing to hope for is a increasing vote for UKIP resulting a coup by back benchers to oust the cancer of camoron , osborne and their ilk from the tory party...

[dazsmith69]

UKIP have, and always will have my vote.

They are the party of common sense, and the UK's only hope for the future

As you are motoring enthusiasts, their 2012 Manifesto states

We will
Let the people decide on local transport infrastructure
by calling binding referendums.

Reopen local railway lines where needed.

Preserve way-leaves of disused railway lines in
case they are needed again.

Halt widespread over-zealousness in parking
enforcement.

Remove all speed cameras, except those proven to
reduce accidents or demanded by the community.

Provide free parking at all hospitals.

Oppose HS2 (High Speed Rail 2).

Protect free parking for Blue Badge holders.

Protect rural bus services.

To pay for these commitments
We will

Ÿ Tax foreign lorries using British roads.

Ÿ Ensure that road maintenance is more efficient
through better, more competitive tendering

Seems very good to me.

UKIP are a serious party, i think 3rd most popular now growing daily.

Daz

[DAVEVO9]

Farage: We face the prospect of mass civil unrest, even revolution


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Brilliant! look at some of their faces.

[dandarez]

DAVEVO9 said:

Farage: We face the prospect of mass civil unrest, even revolution


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...

Brilliant! look at some of their faces.

Fantastic! The 'only' politician of conviction left. And people are waking up to that fact.

I was the only one of my group who voted UKIP at the GE, now I reckon 90 per cent of them would do so next time.

I love this comment:
'Can we make Farage President of the USA. Who cares if he's British. Obama wasn't born here either...'

[V8mate]

dazsmith69 said:

UKIP have, and always will have my vote.

They are the party of common sense, and the UK's only hope for the future

As you are motoring enthusiasts, their 2012 Manifesto states

We will
Let the people decide on local transport infrastructure
by calling binding referendums.

Reopen local railway lines where needed.

Preserve way-leaves of disused railway lines in
case they are needed again.

Halt widespread over-zealousness in parking
enforcement.

Remove all speed cameras, except those proven to
reduce accidents or demanded by the community.

Provide free parking at all hospitals.

Oppose HS2 (High Speed Rail 2).

Protect free parking for Blue Badge holders.

Protect rural bus services.

To pay for these commitments
We will

Ÿ Tax foreign lorries using British roads.

Ÿ Ensure that road maintenance is more efficient
through better, more competitive tendering

Seems very good to me.

UKIP are a serious party, i think 3rd most popular now growing daily.

Daz

That list is enough to put me off entirely. It is a combination of soundbite politics and pure socialism.

Thanks for posting it though, I learnt something new about UKIP.

[steveatesh]

Interesting to see how many empty seats there were!

[elster]

steveatesh said:

Interesting to see how many empty seats there were!

That was busy

[martin84]

V8mate said:

That list is enough to put me off entirely. It is a combination of soundbite politics and pure socialism.

Thanks for posting it though, I learnt something new about UKIP.

Out of interest what parts specifically of that list offends you the most?

[V8mate]

martin84 said:

V8mate said:

That list is enough to put me off entirely. It is a combination of soundbite politics and pure socialism.

Thanks for posting it though, I learnt something new about UKIP.

Out of interest what parts specifically of that list offends you the most?

"Let the people decide..."

[pacman1]

I'd vote for UKIP, unfortunately there is no councillor in my area. They do get the odd donation albeit a token gesture, I'm certainly no hardcore activist.

A few thoughts on the topic though:

To be a real political contender, the party is going to need to get some meat on its bones and not just be a campaign for one agenda alone, even though it is the core.
As with any fledgling party, this will hopefully come from main stream party MP's defecting to UKIP.

Regarding links with far right extremists, well since they are on the same part of the political spectrum, someone is going to have to deal with them, so I don't see the problem. Surely no different than Labour with communists or the Greens with say, extreme animal rights groups, if you see what I mean.

[dandarez]

pacman1 said:

I'd vote for UKIP, unfortunately there is no councillor in my area. They do get the odd donation albeit a token gesture, I'm certainly no hardcore activist.

A few thoughts on the topic though:

To be a real political contender, the party is going to need to get some meat on its bones and not just be a campaign for one agenda alone, even though it is the core.
As with any fledgling party, this will hopefully come from main stream party MP's defecting to UKIP.

Regarding links with far right extremists, well since they are on the same part of the political spectrum, someone is going to have to deal with them, so I don't see the problem. Surely no different than Labour with communists or the Greens with say, extreme animal rights groups, if you see what I mean.

Farage admits this is a problem.
There was no UKIP councillor in my area during the Local Elections, so I voted on local issues, not national.

However, think about it, even without enough numbers of candidates, UKIP is moving into third position in national politics.
When they muster enough, plus there will be defections to them before the next GE, it's inevitable, think where they will be then.
People have had enough of the crap given to them in past and recent years. It's typical of us, we only move when we are shoved so far into a corner that we have no choice. Just some us move earlier than others.