UK ISP's must block The Pirate Bay

UK ISP's must block The Pirate Bay

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130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
What would that be?
lrn2proxy

Odie

4,187 posts

182 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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130R said:
TheHeretic said:
What would that be?
lrn2proxy
learn to use google

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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130R said:
TheHeretic said:
What would that be?
lrn2proxy
Not 5 seconds then. I thought there was some magic setting you could fettle. Seemingly not.

Lrn2proxy? Are you 12?

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Not 5 seconds then. I thought there was some magic setting you could fettle. Seemingly not.
They're called connection settings and yes it does take about 5 seconds

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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130R said:
hey're called connection settings and yes it does take about 5 seconds
Really? I just click an icon, and select 'on'. Clearly you are taking the long route.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Really? I just click an icon, and select 'on'. Clearly you are taking the long route.
Yes firefox add-ons are available ..

erdnase

1,963 posts

201 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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For those asking "how" to bypass ISP filtering in general, google "VPN".

A VPN will even bypass your ISP torrent throttling (a proxy will not, AFAIK). I have no affiliation with them other than using them myself, but CyberGhost is cheap, fast and reliable.

Edit: Good review of VPN providers https://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-reall...

Edited by erdnase on Monday 30th April 16:39

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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130R said:
es firefox add-ons are available ..
Not via Firefox. Anyway, I thought you had some littlemfandangle to get around it. Proxies are not particularly secret or anything.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I thought that was exactly his point?

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Proxies are not particularly secret or anything.
Well exactly, they do the job though. With something like foxyproxy you don't even need to switch anything once you have set it up.

sinizter

3,348 posts

186 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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Blocking PirateBay will not change anything at all. The problem is the precedent of blocking such a site.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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sinizter said:
Blocking PirateBay will not change anything at all. The problem is the precedent of blocking such a site.
Agree. What next?

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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TheHeretic said:
sinizter said:
Blocking PirateBay will not change anything at all. The problem is the precedent of blocking such a site.
Agree. What next?
Newzbin was the first one. As I said, six months to get this block in place, how long does it take to put up a mirror?

erdnase

1,963 posts

201 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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davepoth said:
Newzbin was the first one. As I said, six months to get this block in place, how long does it take to put up a mirror?
Probably quicker to just change your DNS server.

https://torrentfreak.com/how-to-unblock-the-pirate...

I'd recommend using Googles DNS regardless. They might be big and hold a stload of data on us, but they've *generally* behaved responsibly with it over a long period of time.

sinizter

3,348 posts

186 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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As long as they use DNS and not DPI to block PirateBay (I am not sure how they would use packet inspection, but I suspect it is doable).

erdnase

1,963 posts

201 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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Yea, changing DNS servers will work for a while - then we wait another 6 months while the industry demands ISPs perform DPI to block it. Then we all hop over to VPNs and wait another 6 months to see their next move. It's ridiculous.

Look at the porn industry. They've changed their business model and embraced the internet. There's an abundance of free porn on the internet (so I hear), but the internet porn industry is thriving. Why can't the record and music companies embrace Netflix, etc, new models of business, instead of digging their heels in and going after everyone who dares to download their stuff.

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I use Google DNS and it won't bypass BT's block of newzbin2, other ISP's may be doing different things of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanfeed_%28content_...

Edited by 130R on Monday 30th April 17:13

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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sinizter said:
As long as they use DNS and not DPI to block PirateBay (I am not sure how they would use packet inspection, but I suspect it is doable).
DPI isn't really suitable for blocking websites, it's a different ball game.

bitchstewie

51,257 posts

210 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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It's bks. Look at the before and after numbers and nothing will change.

They just don't get the problem.

Monsterlime

1,206 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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The problem with this is that it is a slipery slope. Now it has started, be prepared for much much more blocking and restriction.

The time will come (5 years at a guess, maybe 10) where the use of VPNs and Proxy servers will be illegal outside of big business or the payment of massive "licensing" costs. Otherwise, you will find people knocking at your door asking why you are using encryption, tunnelling etc since you obviously have nothing to hide.