UK ISP's must block The Pirate Bay

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Then steganography will see an uptake so they won't even know there's anything encrypted.

[200bhp]

I can see a shift back to how things were 15 years ago - People buying pirate software, music and films on disc from a car boot sale or their mate/colleague who knows how to get around the restrictions.

Someone who knows what to do can easily dump the week's top 100 albums on a DVD and get to the boot sale on a Sunday morning to flog them for a couple of quid.

[speedy_thrills]

Would this fly at the European courts however? All TPB will have to do is prove that it impedes trade or steps on a human right and it'll be overturned.

[sinizter]

speedy_thrills said:

All TPB will have to do is prove that it impedes trade

Sure it does, but the argument would run along the lines of a drug dealer claiming the police are impeding his trade. (Given the fact that they have blocked the site .... Nothing to do with my opinion of the scenario).

Hopefully they will come up with a more creative and persuasive way to deal with it.

[joe_90]

Dns servers changed too:

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

job done.. idiots, have no idea about the interwebs.

[hairykrishna]

joe_90 said:

Dns servers changed too:

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

job done.. idiots, have no idea about the interwebs.

Apart from it's not a DNS block, judging by Virgin today, so switching DNS server does bugger all.

Tor works perfectly but my guess is that this block will cut off the vast majority of the UK users of pirate bay. I surprised that there's not a UK specific advice page near the top of google to help all the non tech savvy people out. It just needs a link to a web based proxy like http://anonymouse.org

Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 2nd May 20:10

[sinizter]

I'm on TalkTalk (their own DNS servers) and piratebay.org redirects to thepiratebay.se and everything seems to work as normal.

[samuelellis]

hairykrishna said:

joe_90 said:

Dns servers changed too:

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

job done.. idiots, have no idea about the interwebs.

Apart from it's not a DNS block, judging by Virgin today, so switching DNS server does bugger all.

Tor works perfectly but my guess is that this block will cut off the vast majority of the UK users of pirate bay. I surprised that there's not a UK specific advice page near the top of google to help all the non tech savvy people out. It just needs a link to a web based proxy like http://anonymouse.org

Edited by hairykrishna on Wednesday 2nd May 20:10

This is what you get if you try to get to thepiratebay though virgin

http://my.virginmedia.com/site-blocked.html

As other posters have said - so easy to get round

[davepoth]

Virgin have blocked it.

It's taken me at least...8 minutes to get it back again.

going with a free proxy - a bit slower, but I don't have to remember to use a web proxy.

Edited by davepoth on Wednesday 2nd May 21:06

[MrV]

Or just go to tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

Removed the https:// so hope that gets around PH rules ?

[davepoth]

MrV said:

Or just go to tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/

Removed the https:// so hope that gets around PH rules ?

Ooh, that's much easier. Are they allowed to censor a registered political party I wonder?

[supersingle]

thinfourth2 said:

TheHeretic said:

ETA, how many millions are being flung at this non-problem. Have a look for the TED talk 'The 8-million dollar iPod'.

8 billion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZadCj8O1-0

[Waspy1]

What I don't understand is why the British courts worry about American multi-millionaire movie stars being deprived of a few quid (if indeed they are).

Who cares?

Do the American courts worry about British sitcom actors losing out if Americans download episodes of The Peep Show?

I rather think not.

[Watchman]

Well I must thank all those pointing out the loopholes here. I had a sudden panic attack when I thought Virgin had cut me off from my supply of American TV series 2 days before they air in the UK on a product (Sky) that I pay for anyway.

Politicians trying to solve a fking non-problem as usual.

[davepoth]

Waspy1 said:

What I don't understand is why the British courts worry about American multi-millionaire movie stars being deprived of a few quid (if indeed they are).

Who cares?

Do the American courts worry about British sitcom actors losing out if Americans download episodes of The Peep Show?

I rather think not.

it was the BPI (British recording industry) that brought the case to the court. They could try taking it to the US but the UK is a much better place for suing.

[uk_vette]

Here in China, very few people actually download and save any bit torrents, for movies. It's just so "old fashioned"
There are so many Chinese websites, where I can simply watch almost any movie, by live streaming.
Almost all the TV shows, both UK, and USA and Chinese, all available for watching whenever the mood takes.
One can of course, download the movies for saving, and watch later, but really there is no point.
It just fills up hard drive space.
I used to have hundreds of movies, now I recently deleted them all.
Just no point keeping them.
If I want to watch a movie, I simply jump on line, all free of course.

vette

[davepoth]

uk_vette said:

Here in China, very few people actually download and save any bit torrents, for movies. It's just so "old fashioned"
There are so many Chinese websites, where I can simply watch almost any movie, by live streaming.
Almost all the TV shows, both UK, and USA and Chinese, all available for watching whenever the mood takes.
One can of course, download the movies for saving, and watch later, but really there is no point.
It just fills up hard drive space.
I used to have hundreds of movies, now I recently deleted them all.
Just no point keeping them.
If I want to watch a movie, I simply jump on line, all free of course.

vette

They are quite difficult to search for though...

-cough-

[uk_vette]

davepoth said:

uk_vette said:

Here in China, very few people actually download and save any bit torrents, for movies. It's just so "old fashioned"
There are so many Chinese websites, where I can simply watch almost any movie, by live streaming.
Almost all the TV shows, both UK, and USA and Chinese, all available for watching whenever the mood takes.
One can of course, download the movies for saving, and watch later, but really there is no point.
It just fills up hard drive space.
I used to have hundreds of movies, now I recently deleted them all.
Just no point keeping them.
If I want to watch a movie, I simply jump on line, all free of course.

vette

They are quite difficult to search for though...

-cough-

.
Hi Dave,

Not too difficult in Chinese, but very much more so in English.
Even then, the chances of an American or European demanding for them to close the site down,,,,,,,,,well, might as well just save your breath.

vette

[TheHeretic]

I don't trust the streaming sites. You never quote know what you may be clicking.

[Watchman]

I'm having problems reaching TPB again. I cannot reach the original URL through anonymouse any more - that just times out. And the https site for Pirate Party has a "the site must be down" message, inviting you to try again in 15 mins but it's been like that for a few days.