FaceBook - head of another DotCom crash?

FaceBook - head of another DotCom crash?

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crofty1984

15,901 posts

205 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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Oh, this thread just reminded me, I need to delete Facebook off my phone.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

133 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Surprising that people are surprised that organisations harvest social media data and sell it on.

stuckmojo

2,988 posts

189 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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I find it fascinating that so many people believe that Facebook's objective is NOT to promote connection and expansion of their social networks via technology but instead profile the st out of them, sell their data and brainwash them into behave/buy/conform.

turbomoped

4,180 posts

84 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Cant think of an advert I looked at or followed up on there. The huge database must net them a fortune from the CIA and other organizations keen to make use of the info.

eatcustard

1,003 posts

128 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Block the adverts, its not hard

Lucas Ayde

3,573 posts

169 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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I very much doubt that this will have much impact on the longer term operations of Facebook - their prime raison d'etre is to extract as much personal info about you as possible and sell it on to the highest bidder. Anyone who thinks they give, or ever have given, a flying fig about 'privacy' is deluding themselves.

The only reason this is raising such a stink in the media is because there's a nice anti-Trump angle to be made about it, and the media loves a story that can get a dig in at him. It'll be forgotten next week and a large chunk of the dimmer-witted public will merrily go on posting their entire life for the World to see and self-compiling a surveillance dossier on themselves - as they have enjoyed doing for years. Got to get those 'likes'.

turbobloke

104,141 posts

261 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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It's OK, we know the EU has got it sorted and it's pure genius, nothing less than expected...

A 3% tax on the digital sales revenue of multinational tech co's such as FB and Google.

Not 2.5% or 4% as those level of tax wouldn't get the job done, clearly 3% is where it's at as 3 is a magic number.

Paying shedloalds more tax for politicians to spunk is sure to stop third parties or even rogue employees being naughty.

Grasping eurodrone twunts strike again, if it happens but then it's the thought that counts.

O/T?
Meanwhile the EU pension fund has been described as on the brink of collapse in reports from last year through to January this year, using calculations based on the UK being in the EU (as we were/are but won't be). Individual countries face nothing better.

Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 22 March 07:08

Toaster

2,939 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Lucas Ayde said:
I Got to get those 'likes'.
Interesting about the likes comment, they really don't mean much at all, a friend who runs a business had 10,000 likes on an activity they were doing they had two bookings via FB so likes are really quite meaningless just more IT vapourware biggrin

skwdenyer

16,632 posts

241 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Toaster said:
Lucas Ayde said:
I Got to get those 'likes'.
Interesting about the likes comment, they really don't mean much at all, a friend who runs a business had 10,000 likes on an activity they were doing they had two bookings via FB so likes are really quite meaningless just more IT vapourware biggrin
They can mean a great deal as a part of a larger pattern. Which (in theory) only FB sees.

A few years ago, businesses started to rely on FB - they could send an invitation to those who liked a page to, say, an event. Then FB removed that option (once people were used to it...) and instead insisted on paid "boosts" and the like.

Those who Like a business only see the event notification if FB's algorithm deems it appropriate / potentially interesting / etc. It is - strangely - on the ways in which FB stifles spontaneity and serendipity - you tend to see more of what you already apparently like.

It isn't vapourware at all. It is just that, as the old saying goes, if you're not paying for the produce then most likely you *are* the product.

It reminds me of the chap who got caught selling fake bomb detectors. One of his staff had apparently called him out on it, saying "you can't sell this - it doesn't do what it is designed to do" to which the chap replied "of course it does: it is designed to make me a lot of money, and it does that very well indeed..."

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

167 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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A Twitter user challenged Elon Musk to delete his Tesla and SpaceX pages on Facebook, and he did it seems!

NRS

22,250 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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coyft said:
superkartracer said:
coyft said:
$31.30 today.
$108.80 today
$203 today
You said 5 years in 2012 though, so did you already sell last year? biggrin

NRS

22,250 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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coyft said:
I sold a bit earlier than that, but bought back in 2016 @111.

I’ll check back in 2021 biggrin
My commiserations for selling too early, I feel really sorry for you, biggrin

Davos123

5,966 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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ReaperCushions

6,075 posts

185 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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That’s quite a drop.


“Facebook shares tumbled by more than 20% on Wednesday after the social media network's revenue and user growth fell short of investor expectations.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44957359

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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The whole valuation is predicated on user and revenue growth.

Users (the valuable ones in the developed world) appear to be flat. Of course, they can sign on a billion people with no money, but they aren’t as valuable. Everyone who wants to get Facebook is already on it.

At the same time, monetising these users is becoming harder. A huge number of users have opted out of targeted advertising, which is the whole point of Facebook. If I don’t give you permission to track and target me, I’m just another user. Of course they’ll bend the rules, but when they get caught, the public reaction will be severe.

Clearly they’re profitable. The question is whether the unicorn valuation is justified.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Friday 27th July 2018
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Analysis above is spot on
I’d personally consider it a good thing for society if the business model collapses and takes twitter and insta with it
I’m not holding my breath

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Friday 28th June 2019
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Facebook to launch their own currency.


"Social media giant Facebook has unveiled plans to launch a new digital currency, called Libra, next year.

It said people would be able to make payments with the currency via its own apps, as well as on messaging service WhatsApp.

Firms such as Uber and Visa are also likely to accept it in future, it said."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48664253


Given Facebook’s record on privacy and data management, will people really trust them with their money?