Is Cameron an utter failure?
Discussion
eharding said:
Police State said:
I'm gonna stick my neck out here:
without wishing to sound 'too personal', you live in a fairly middle class area, drive a nice motor, and fund a private plane. I would suggest your life is fairly comfy and relatively cloistered such that you don't know; don't see; and don't hear of the realities of our east european friends criminal activities. I would therefore suggest that it is you that really hasn't a clue as to how relatively entrenched said activities are. Perhaps you may take a different view when the harsh realities of what you are seemingly in denial of directly affect you. It may be your RR on a container to Estonia, your bank account emptied; your house burgled,and so on...
But be assured, the essence of what the Op posted is utterly true.
PS: I forgot to add they may even be brazen enough to 'make use' of your plane for a nice little earner...
without wishing to sound 'too personal', you live in a fairly middle class area, drive a nice motor, and fund a private plane. I would suggest your life is fairly comfy and relatively cloistered such that you don't know; don't see; and don't hear of the realities of our east european friends criminal activities. I would therefore suggest that it is you that really hasn't a clue as to how relatively entrenched said activities are. Perhaps you may take a different view when the harsh realities of what you are seemingly in denial of directly affect you. It may be your RR on a container to Estonia, your bank account emptied; your house burgled,and so on...
But be assured, the essence of what the Op posted is utterly true.
PS: I forgot to add they may even be brazen enough to 'make use' of your plane for a nice little earner...
Edited by Police State on Tuesday 15th May 23:54
I suspect Estonia would send the Rangie straight back, and want to swap it for a Landcruiser.
Eastern Europeans are quite capable of emptying your bank account from Eastern Europe - you think they crawl up your domestic waste-pipe, nip out of the loo, do a quick transfer from your laptop while you're not looking, and then make themselves scarce down the khazi again?
As for using the Yak for contraband smuggling...as the Russians found when they tried to use them for counter-insurgency in Afghanistan, you need to build a runway within 5 miles of your target area.
Wanting to pin the blame for your own failures on immigrants is the feed-stock of the home-brew jackboot brigade.
New POD said:
no he's just lame.
He's out of his depth, lacks vision, lacks intelligence, lacks life experience, who has never HAD to work for a living, never had a real job.
You might just as well give Borat the job.
Mind you I'm not sure how many MP's have worked for a living.
What I do know is that not one of them has an Engineering, Science or Technology Background, and if it's Designing and Making, and Investing stuff that's going to lead us to salvation, not one of them knows a thing about it.
Yeah. We need more chippy northerners with massive inferiority complexes and boilersuits in Westminster. He's out of his depth, lacks vision, lacks intelligence, lacks life experience, who has never HAD to work for a living, never had a real job.
You might just as well give Borat the job.
Mind you I'm not sure how many MP's have worked for a living.
What I do know is that not one of them has an Engineering, Science or Technology Background, and if it's Designing and Making, and Investing stuff that's going to lead us to salvation, not one of them knows a thing about it.
Smugness in being able to machine a bit of steel does not qualify you to run the country.
sjn2004 said:
You've been Googling your little fingers off for the past two hours, haven't you...and of the hundreds and thousands, you've found fourteen, plus two probables?
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
You've been Googling your little fingers off for the past two hours, haven't you...and of the hundreds and thousands, you've found fourteen, plus two probables?
Here's another , approx 2600 Lithuanians arrested last year in LONDON, population of Lithuania 3.1 million. Thats not far off 1/1000 Lithuanians having been arrested in LONDON. Pretty crazy stats.
New POD said:
oyster said:
New POD said:
no he's just lame.
He's out of his depth, lacks vision, lacks intelligence, lacks life experience, who has never HAD to work for a living, never had a real job.
You might just as well give Borat the job.
Mind you I'm not sure how many MP's have worked for a living.
What I do know is that not one of them has an Engineering, Science or Technology Background, and if it's Designing and Making, and Investing stuff that's going to lead us to salvation, not one of them knows a thing about it.
Perhaps if we paid our MPs a decent six-figure salary we might attract some bright people out of the private sector to become MPs.He's out of his depth, lacks vision, lacks intelligence, lacks life experience, who has never HAD to work for a living, never had a real job.
You might just as well give Borat the job.
Mind you I'm not sure how many MP's have worked for a living.
What I do know is that not one of them has an Engineering, Science or Technology Background, and if it's Designing and Making, and Investing stuff that's going to lead us to salvation, not one of them knows a thing about it.
I consider myself to be distinctly normal in terms of my ability and success and yet earn more than an MP.
sjn2004 said:
No, actually I've been rendering up some animation in Motion and every so often checked this webpage on my laptop LOL.
Relax - you don't need to establish an alibi, let alone one so painfully thin as that. You could equally well have claimed to have been thrapping yourself to death watching UKIP donkey porn, and we'd still have the same amount of respect for you.sjn2004 said:
Here's another , approx 2600 Lithuanians arrested last year in LONDON, population of Lithuania 3.1 million. Thats not far off 1/1000 Lithuanians having been arrested in LONDON. Pretty crazy stats.
No, that's 10 Lithuanians, arrested 260 times by the same London copper - one with a grudge.sjn2004 said:
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
Not being pedantic but you did say all EU citizens and the characters in question come from Romania. Had a pair of the scuffy sods try and pickpocket me in the Trafford Centre about one year back.
Well, that's a start. Even if you didn't get their names, we'll call that two down, twenty-two to go.http://www.lbc.co.uk/14-dangerous-foreign-criminal...
davepoth said:
sjn2004 said:
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
Not being pedantic but you did say all EU citizens and the characters in question come from Romania. Had a pair of the scuffy sods try and pickpocket me in the Trafford Centre about one year back.
Well, that's a start. Even if you didn't get their names, we'll call that two down, twenty-two to go.http://www.lbc.co.uk/14-dangerous-foreign-criminal...
eharding said:
davepoth said:
sjn2004 said:
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
Not being pedantic but you did say all EU citizens and the characters in question come from Romania. Had a pair of the scuffy sods try and pickpocket me in the Trafford Centre about one year back.
Well, that's a start. Even if you didn't get their names, we'll call that two down, twenty-two to go.http://www.lbc.co.uk/14-dangerous-foreign-criminal...
davepoth said:
eharding said:
davepoth said:
sjn2004 said:
eharding said:
sjn2004 said:
Not being pedantic but you did say all EU citizens and the characters in question come from Romania. Had a pair of the scuffy sods try and pickpocket me in the Trafford Centre about one year back.
Well, that's a start. Even if you didn't get their names, we'll call that two down, twenty-two to go.http://www.lbc.co.uk/14-dangerous-foreign-criminal...
I was going to say it depends what you measure him against, but then I realised that if it's anything other than Nick Clegg, he looks a bit of t
t.
Hasn't balanced the budget.
Hasn't tackled welfare dependency.
Hasn't repatriated any significant powers from the EU.
Hasn't tackled immigration.
Which makes me wonder, what has he actually done?
Well admittedly he hasn't spent quite as much as Labour would have done, which means Milliband and his merrys can snipe at his "mean" cuts and his "out of touch" tax rises (as though spending our own money was a mark of generosity, and being "in touch" meant being a destitute slob who lives on Gregg's pasties... But never mind, people are stupid.)
So Cameron's contribution to the sinking ship Britannia has been a half hearted spell on the bilge pump that means we're only up to our waist when it should have been up to our chest by now. This means that when Labour get re-elected in a couple of years they will be able to screw things up even more, and we will be even further past the point of no return.
The 2010 election was a good one to lose, and had Cameron led his party to provide a genuine alternative to the tax, spend, regulate mantra of the last 15 years then he could have either won with a mandate to do something worthwhile, or lost it to good effect. Yes Britain would be a more chaotic and indebted place right now, but he would be poised to be prime minister with a strong majority and a country crying out for deep rooted change.
As things stand we have no prospect of anything useful happening in the near future. So yes, Cameron has failed.
t.Hasn't balanced the budget.
Hasn't tackled welfare dependency.
Hasn't repatriated any significant powers from the EU.
Hasn't tackled immigration.
Which makes me wonder, what has he actually done?
Well admittedly he hasn't spent quite as much as Labour would have done, which means Milliband and his merry
s can snipe at his "mean" cuts and his "out of touch" tax rises (as though spending our own money was a mark of generosity, and being "in touch" meant being a destitute slob who lives on Gregg's pasties... But never mind, people are stupid.)So Cameron's contribution to the sinking ship Britannia has been a half hearted spell on the bilge pump that means we're only up to our waist when it should have been up to our chest by now. This means that when Labour get re-elected in a couple of years they will be able to screw things up even more, and we will be even further past the point of no return.
The 2010 election was a good one to lose, and had Cameron led his party to provide a genuine alternative to the tax, spend, regulate mantra of the last 15 years then he could have either won with a mandate to do something worthwhile, or lost it to good effect. Yes Britain would be a more chaotic and indebted place right now, but he would be poised to be prime minister with a strong majority and a country crying out for deep rooted change.
As things stand we have no prospect of anything useful happening in the near future. So yes, Cameron has failed.
What did anyone seriously expect? any PM is now bound by convention, lack of cash, the need to survive the next election and, more importantly, the EU that there is very little room for manoeuvre......and that's before you consider the coalition. I think his tie is about all he can change
Justayellowbadge said:
Yeah. We need more chippy northerners with massive inferiority complexes and boilersuits in Westminster.
Smugness in being able to machine a bit of steel does not qualify you to run the country.
On the other hand, someone with a degree in something a bit more substantial than "getting ready to be a politician" might bring some critical thinking skills to the job.Smugness in being able to machine a bit of steel does not qualify you to run the country.
I'd also like to see someone in number eleven with a vaguely relevant qualification.
ETA: I'm not sure a "chippy northerner with a massive inferiority complex who can machine a bit of steel" (to use your delightfully home-counties stereotype) would do a massively worse job than the limp unprincipled w
kers who currently occupy HMG's front bench.Edited by CommanderJameson on Wednesday 16th May 07:54
At lest we have had the bonfire of the quangos.
The government has recently hired 42 IT specialists for a brand new quango at a cost of £3.5 million pa. Their main function would, it seems, be to grade how nasty various cookies are.
Some of those which have been killed are often those which seem to have been doing a good job on a limited budjet.
To answer the OP's question, he hasn't been an utter failure. However, come the time then come the wrong guy. If he's the best we can do then we are doomed.
That said, there seems to be a lack of decent leaders around at the moment.
The government has recently hired 42 IT specialists for a brand new quango at a cost of £3.5 million pa. Their main function would, it seems, be to grade how nasty various cookies are.
Some of those which have been killed are often those which seem to have been doing a good job on a limited budjet.
To answer the OP's question, he hasn't been an utter failure. However, come the time then come the wrong guy. If he's the best we can do then we are doomed.
That said, there seems to be a lack of decent leaders around at the moment.
CommanderJameson said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Yeah. We need more chippy northerners with massive inferiority complexes and boilersuits in Westminster.
Smugness in being able to machine a bit of steel does not qualify you to run the country.
On the other hand, someone with a degree in something a bit more substantial than "getting ready to be a politician" might bring some critical thinking skills to the job.Smugness in being able to machine a bit of steel does not qualify you to run the country.
I'd also like to see someone in number eleven with a vaguely relevant qualification.
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