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AJS-
10,005 posts
105 months
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NobleGuy said: AJS- said: NobleGuy said: Quangos are not the problem here. This particular quango with it's relatively modest budget as quangos go (and 3.5 million is not small change) is not the problem, but the general reflex action of setting up a quango and pouring government money into every aspect of our lives very much is the problem. I think, in terms of govt finances, £3.5m is even less than small change  AJS- said: Personal debt is more easily dealt with - Audis and flash houses can be repossessed and sold on at a more realistic market value. Unfortunately 'realistic market value' usually means 'at a loss'. The economy is on it's knees because of personal debt. Of course it will be a loss, they paid way too much and lent far too easily. That's the nature of making a mistake really. £3.5m would pay the wage bill for a company of 1,000 people for a year. Is this quango employing 1,000 people? What the hell do they all do? It's more than most successful, high income earners will earn in their entire life. So are they employing the best and the brightest, and paying them big six figure incomes? And why? Yes it is a small drop in the vast ocean of utter waste that is our public sector, where you need to be in the tens of billions to even register, but all that really tells you is what a colossal scale this waste has reached.
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alock
1,706 posts
80 months
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AJS- said: £3.5m would pay the wage bill for a company of 1,000 people for a year. £3.5m divided by 1000 is £3500. That's a very low salary even with zero overheads. £3.5m will typically run a company of about 50 people with wages ranging between £20K and £100K
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AJS-
10,005 posts
105 months
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alock said: AJS- said: £3.5m would pay the wage bill for a company of 1,000 people for a year. £3.5m divided by 1000 is £3500. That's a very low salary even with zero overheads. £3.5m will typically run a company of about 50 people with wages ranging between £20K and £100K Haha. I cocked my sums up!
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NobleGuy
7,030 posts
84 months
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AJS- said: alock said: AJS- said: £3.5m would pay the wage bill for a company of 1,000 people for a year. £3.5m divided by 1000 is £3500. That's a very low salary even with zero overheads. £3.5m will typically run a company of about 50 people with wages ranging between £20K and £100K Haha. I cocked my sums up! See, this govt lark isn't so easy 
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markcoznottz
1,942 posts
93 months
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AJS- said: Asterix said: I'd argue that Bush isn't held with the same utter contempt in the US the way Blair is in the UK. Unfortunately I think you'd be wrong. Some people still think Blair was good. Really. I don't understand why, but then I never got the whole Blair thing anyway, even in 1997, when I was 18 and a good deal of my contemporaries thought he was a breath of fresh air, and some even thought he had good ideas. The only thing I can find to say anywhere near being in his favour is that he is a slick media operator and a good speaker, and that seems to be more important to most people than little things like illegal wars, bankrupt exchequers or using the Premiership to make himself a multimillionaire. The labour government were good at only one thing, tax and spend, despite blairs rhetoric of being a Tory lite. Unfortunately due to a combination of events, none of his making, luck you might say, noone noticed. Rising house prices, endless credit, cheap fuel, food, imported Chinese tat, and new things to distract people, Internet, mobile phones. X factor etc. Everything has flat lined now, there is no optimism, and if peoPle have no hope that is very dangerous.
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AJS-
10,005 posts
105 months
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NobleGuy said: AJS- said: alock said: AJS- said: £3.5m would pay the wage bill for a company of 1,000 people for a year. £3.5m divided by 1000 is £3500. That's a very low salary even with zero overheads. £3.5m will typically run a company of about 50 people with wages ranging between £20K and £100K Haha. I cocked my sums up! See, this govt lark isn't so easy It's not is it. Still, £3.5 million is more money than I have, so it must be a lot.
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Blue62
1,391 posts
21 months
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Don't think he's a failure by any means, these are very challenging and difficult times to be a PM, especially in a coalition. However, I do think he's been a disappointment, but that would hardly single him out, but in reality very little of substance has been achieved (the cuts are an illusion) and the old boy network appears to be functioning better than ever.
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XCP
10,476 posts
97 months
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He looked bloody shifty at the Leveson enquiry.
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davepoth
19,884 posts
68 months
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XCP said: He looked bloody shifty at the Leveson enquiry. Being sat in the dock tends to do that to a person. 
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