Fat person, words fail me............
Discussion
joe_90 said:
That second pic looks shopped to me, the same outfit, but shes just scaled different on the couch.
Father Ted: Now concentrate this time, Dougal. These[he points to some plastic cows on the table]
Father Ted: are very small; those
[pointing at some cows out of the window]
Father Ted: are far away...
Piersman2 said:
joe_90 said:
That second pic looks shopped to me, the same outfit, but shes just scaled different on the couch.
Father Ted: Now concentrate this time, Dougal. These[he points to some plastic cows on the table]
Father Ted: are very small; those
[pointing at some cows out of the window]
Father Ted: are far away...
Apparently she put on (even) more weight when she was wrestling with whether to dump someone who saw her as Mrs Right.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4341339/...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4341339/...
Her Facebook page is very public, and a bit of an insight to her attitude to dieting - http://www.facebook.com/georgiageo064
Tonsko said:
A little bit harsh TankRS. There's a more considered article from FleetStreetFox: http://t.co/Vx6dPyFB
can i ask what you found harsh about my comments?yes I probably did come across as being quite harsh on her, but as others have said it’s not as if she is an invalid and is unable to anything for herself! yes her mother was to blame for most of it, but the time away from them when she was at the camp where she developed confidence and pride should have given her the ability to fend for herself!
as for the article you have linked, it’s just as much tosh as the others online. there are many point I disagree with and given information I have the privileged of knowing I’m sure any sympathisers may change some of their points of view.
Here’s a few
"Using the money from newspaper stories and TV appearances Georgia went off to fat camp in America and lost half her body weight in a few months."
You may be surprised to know that some of your money, as a tax payer, helped her go to America to save her life and lose the weight.
"I was really looking forward to trying it all out back home but, when I arrived, my mum said she hadn’t had time to prepare any healthy food so we had fish and chips instead. From that moment on, I had a niggling feeling that things weren’t going to work out."
at that point shouldn't she have realised that to make it work, she would have to do more for herself and not be so reliant on her parents?
"The counsellors offered her a place at their UK summer camp to make it easier but the local health board wouldn't pay for it."
because they had already footed a large chunk of the bill the 1st time round
"Around eight weeks after returning from camp I drifted off the plan. I felt really alone. My parents weren't doing it with me at home and my friends weren't doing it at college so there was no motivation to continue"
clearly she has confidence issues, and this is difficult to overcome. but only 8weeks after coming home she gave up, because no one else was doing it! no motivation to continue? Shouldn’t the fact she was almost half the person she used to be motivation enough!?
“She's been publicly begging for help since 2008.” really? I’ve never heard of her until now. Possibly due to the fact I don’t watch or read the news. Perhaps the attitude of giving up on everything they have tried has left them thinking, what’s the point she’s only going to quit it when it gets boring/too hard!? , something she has displayed over and over again.
“allowed a 10-year-old to take on the responsibility of caring for two adults,” there’s many many more young carer out there in the same situation as her, yet we don’t hear about them ballooning in size. She may be considered a care as her parents are ill, but her mum still cooks for her, so she’s not as hard off as they are trying to make out.
“She was on the at-risk register at 13 but threatened to harm herself if social workers took her away from her family. She was removed from the register.” This is a dumb move by the local health board, but what are they to do? She has been offered help time after time but each time has turned it down
“By 18 Georgia was 40 stone, heavier than she had ever been. She told reporters she hated herself. Six months later she was 45 stone” – I think that may be a little creative writing by the tabloids. I’ve seen lads training in the gym who have been exercising twice a day and using steroids too put on some extreme weight over short periods of time. But never close to that.
She would have been gaining roughly 1/2 a Kilo a day over that period of time. I’ve never come across anyone remotely close to that sort of gain, both healthily and unhealthily. I will admit that even though I have never seen it, it could be possible but I have my doubts.
The only similarity between each article on this story is her and them blaming everyone else for her ‘condition’. Yes she was failed at a young age by her mother, but being old enough to take responsibility for herself. Each article has blamed the mother, the doctors, the local health board for failing her. None has blamed her for shoving the food in her mouth, she’s perfectly capable of feeding herself.
The local health board has done more to help her than is reported, they gave her special rates to use her local leisure centre, she could go as much as she liked for only £1. She would occasionally visit the gym, do 10mins of exercise then go outside, via the vending machine, and sit there smoking and eating. They also paid for the Personal Trainer to visit her home and help her.
While we’re on the subject of laying blame, cant we, as tax payers, brunt some of the blame? After all it’s us that are paying for her food. (i know its ridiculous statement bus as blame on everyone else is being dished out, why not?). It was also out money that paid for her trainer and diet plans.
This whole blame culture is pissing me off, most people are looking for others to blame for their ailments/issues before accepting the blame lies with that individual.
As an example I had a client complain to me that her diet & exercise plan I had written for her wasn’t working as she hadn’t lost as much weight as she expected. Looking at it I failed to see her point, it was an exercise plan for 30mins exercise 3 days a week and at a very easy level. I asked what she found the hardest, and it turned out the diet plan was her problem, it included meals that she had to cook herself, not just chuck a pizza in the oven, and with the weather being so nice she found it difficult to have low amounts of alcohol on the plan!? It turns out she’s been spending a lot of time in the beer garden the last week with the nice weather, and in the weeks before has just been doing ‘what she feels like’ off the plans I’ve given her. Fair play to her though, she wanted credit for eating the salad they serve with the burgers and wraps she’s been eating at the pub
Its probably been discussed in the past 8 pages but £100k to get her out of the house! ffs what a waste of money how much does a sledgehammer cost? She is obviously mentally ill you don't get t 60+ stone without some serious issues she needs to be locked up and fed a stricht diet and not let back into public until shes got over her issues the cost obvioulsy isn;t an issue.
There is a controversial treatment for opioid addiction where they put you in an induced coma for the worst parts of withdrawal, and apart from the people who die during it it is apparently not at all a bad thing.
What's to stop people trying this here? You could put her into a coma for a year and feed her minimal things.
What's to stop people trying this here? You could put her into a coma for a year and feed her minimal things.
BlackVanDyke said:
hidetheelephants said:
BlackVanDyke said:
Dead within the first 20 minutes.
There's no way someone that big can walk continuously for more than a few yards. She might not even be able to stand up in her current state.
She needs hospital, special kit to even get her up on her feet in the first place, and then lots and lots and LOTS of very gentle and careful exercise, building up gradually as she gets stronger and slimmer.
Presumably being a fatty would mean swimming is a good idea?There's no way someone that big can walk continuously for more than a few yards. She might not even be able to stand up in her current state.
She needs hospital, special kit to even get her up on her feet in the first place, and then lots and lots and LOTS of very gentle and careful exercise, building up gradually as she gets stronger and slimmer.
Although having written that I feel the urge to post the 'Harpoons; man them!' Unmotivational poster.
I'll never go in a pool again for related issues around having a 'different' shaped body (am disabled and have a permanent 'in' tube and an 'out' tube) - I'm already openly discussed as if I were an unusual car rather than a human, can't even imagine how much worse it'd be with more of my body on display, even in trunks and a t-shirt.
Hopefully there will be a hydrotherapy pool she can use in the hospital with the support of a physiotherapist, to start sorting her out. God knows she needs it - such a shocking waste of such a young life.
Unless you are a swimmer in which case, you feel odd if you aren't wearing just a pair of tangers (speedos).
The swimming idea is excellent though and plenty of places cater to groups... Special needs, Muslim women, disabled, Over weight etc special sessions where only certain people are allowed so that they aren't the butt of many jokes. Though Muslim one is more a religion thing.
Somewhatfoolish said:
There is a controversial treatment for opioid addiction where they put you in an induced coma for the worst parts of withdrawal, and apart from the people who die during it it is apparently not at all a bad thing.
What's to stop people trying this here? You could put her into a coma for a year and feed her minimal things.
For people who are unwilling to accept responsibility it might be a good idea? Makes me think about muscle atrophy though. Will it be like the matrix when they wake up?What's to stop people trying this here? You could put her into a coma for a year and feed her minimal things.
TankRS said:
She would have been gaining roughly 1/2 a Kilo a day over that period of time. I’ve never come across anyone remotely close to that sort of gain, both healthily and unhealthily. I will admit that even though I have never seen it, it could be possible but I have my doubts.
It's utterly obvious that she is right in the tail of the bell curve as to how quickly she can put on weight, there are a lot of people with terrible habits but only one fattest teenager in the UK. So she can put on weight easy anywayAnyway I don't see anything particularly surprising about that, it's what - 4500 calories too much every day? IF it's pure fat and no water retention. That's 2 or 3 pizzas and I bet she eats more than that.
I am a man who loves hhis food, it has to be said.
What I dont understand is this:
She weighs 63 stone at 19 years old.
That is a weight gain of 3.5 stone per year (roughly).
There is 3,500 calories in a pound of fat and 1 stone is 14 pounds, fact fans.
(We'll ignore her stint at fat camp, because its now irrelevant)
So, she would have to eat almost 50000 calories per day since she was born to put that weight on- now I highly doubt her mother fed her that much as a baby, which only makes matters worse as there is less time to take on so many calories, so on some days she would have to eat, for example, nearer 60,000 calories.
Now I dont know about you lot, but I get pretty full if I eat a big meal, as you would expect. An hour or two later and i'm knocked out on the sofa because i'm tired as my body is breaking down and digesting the food (those an in office environment may feel yawny in the afternoon, for example), but surely eating that much in a day would make you throw up, hence your body would not digest X amount of calories?? Right??
What I dont understand is this:
She weighs 63 stone at 19 years old.
That is a weight gain of 3.5 stone per year (roughly).
There is 3,500 calories in a pound of fat and 1 stone is 14 pounds, fact fans.
(We'll ignore her stint at fat camp, because its now irrelevant)
So, she would have to eat almost 50000 calories per day since she was born to put that weight on- now I highly doubt her mother fed her that much as a baby, which only makes matters worse as there is less time to take on so many calories, so on some days she would have to eat, for example, nearer 60,000 calories.
Now I dont know about you lot, but I get pretty full if I eat a big meal, as you would expect. An hour or two later and i'm knocked out on the sofa because i'm tired as my body is breaking down and digesting the food (those an in office environment may feel yawny in the afternoon, for example), but surely eating that much in a day would make you throw up, hence your body would not digest X amount of calories?? Right??
TankRS said:
"I was really looking forward to trying it all out back home but, when I arrived, my mum said she hadn’t had time to prepare any healthy food so we had fish and chips instead. ..."
This says it as much as anything.The girl has been away at the camp for several months and the mother claims that she hasn't had TIME to prepare any healthy food??
Somewhatfoolish said:
Human body is mostly water old chap
Except in her case, her body is more fat then water. Muscle is heavier then fat too. And yes, the human body is mostly water, but the amount of fat on her body "outweighs" the fat (pardon the pun). But to maintain that huge bulk, my question still stands, how does her body not "force itself" to throw up?
And another question, by default the human body automatically burns around 2000-2500 calories per day. Her body will automatically burn more calories per minute then a slim person, simply because of the sheer effort it will take for her to move her bulk, and also because her heart will HAVE to work harder then a slim person. So does she not collapse from exhaustion at all?
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