80 year old granny sky diving mishap.

80 year old granny sky diving mishap.

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TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Yea, she doesn't want to jump, but is eventually pulled out (imagine trying to put a cat in a bucket, same as that...)

Once out, she flips over so instead of spooning like normal in a tandem jump, she's hanging in a ball under the other guy.

Without a jump suit on too...

It's almost like some sort of punishment!

TankRS

2,850 posts

154 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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scenario8 said:
Pretty sure I saw James Bond "catch up" with another skydiver, smack him about a bit, nick the parachute and put it onto his own back before pulling the cord.

In all seriousness, if someone "slipped off" could they realistically be either held onto (tricky at the point of canopy release) or restrapped in mid fall? I guess that would be easier if the "dropped" party was compliant and experienced (see drowning men fighting their lifesavers for examples of the helpless making matters worse)
not quite james bond but -

Travis Pastrana jumps out of a plane without a parachute , dont know about audio as works pc is without any-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDBrdl2sZWs

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Why the f**k did he deploy the cute when she was in that position!?
That was only a small chute (drogue?), not the main one, so I guess it is more of a speed brake, and to help stability.

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Jesus!!! yikes!!! Yet another reason not to go sky diving... although can't help think that she was her own worst enemy, there is absolutely no way she should have been forced out the plane like that!

Jasandjules

69,902 posts

229 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TheEnd said:
Jasandjules said:
Why the f**k did he deploy the cute when she was in that position!?
That was only a small chute (drogue?), not the main one, so I guess it is more of a speed brake, and to help stability.
No the drogue was right away (within a few seconds of exit), it was the main that I saw deployed whilst she was still in a ball under him, that is what concerned me as the snap of the chute is pretty sharp IME (unless I am mistaken in that of course!).

andyroo

2,469 posts

210 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TheEnd said:
(imagine trying to put a cat in a bucket, same as that...)
hehe Very good!

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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I would imagine plenty get to the door then don't want to jump, when they get back on the ground then demand to go back up as they have paid for it.

Company procedure probably says push them out.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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For some reason that vid makes me bloody angry, let's hope these cowboys get sued out of existence

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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voyds9 said:
I would imagine plenty get to the door then don't want to jump, when they get back on the ground then demand to go back up as they have paid for it.

Company procedure probably says push them out.
I'm fairly sure it is the opposite. I did one about 10 years ago, I remember someone asking to be pushed out if they got nervous, and the guys said that wouldn't be happening.
I think you get to the door, and get a tap on the shoulder to go, and the first person then initiates the lean forward and out.

just me

5,964 posts

220 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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voyds9 said:
I would imagine plenty get to the door then don't want to jump, when they get back on the ground then demand to go back up as they have paid for it.

Company procedure probably says push them out.
Nope.

dreamer75

1,402 posts

228 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Holy crap !

I spent a few days at a sky diving school in Oz while my then-boyfriend did his AFF course. When he finished they showed us videos of tandems-gone-wrong. Some horrible stuff, but that is a new one !!!

Quite a few of the vids were tandems where the straps were too loose, but that's awful !

I want to say it's a setup - especially as the footage is on the net - but its pretty realistic if it is redface

ben_h100

1,546 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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And that is why, when you are told to arch, you ARCH!!! Granted, the straps could have been tighter, but it seems that her being forced out of the aircraft and her subsequent reaction sparked this off. It looks like she has curled up, creating more slack in the kit, which has enabled her rig to rotate 180 to face the instructor. Shes then stuck, as in that environment, sensory overload, old dear lack of strength etc, she is unable to straighten out and turn round to the correct position.

I'm not a tandem instructor, far from it, but I've done a fair few skydives and seen plenty of people do tandems. When you are sat cramped in the aircraft on the way up, the straps WILL be loose - it would be impossible to sit in the aircraft otherwise. Could they have been tighter - probably, but they are never `tight` until you are falling and arched.

The old dear simply did the natural reaction and curled up into a ball, (foetal position - natural reaction to protect internal organs/`down below`). If she had made a big arch, as instructed, then the staps would have tightened as per normal, and there would have been less/no issues.

AnimalMkIV

685 posts

144 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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Pesty said:
Who checked to see if it was tight?
Surely that's not apposite in the circumstances, and well, she is 80.

Joking aside, that was bloody scary.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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I was going to type something really crude then but I managed to stop myself smile

Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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Any chance it's a stunt in the jackass mold and there's extra safety kit that can't be seen, otherwise ahy post something that blatantly shows something so dodgy?

ben_h100

1,546 posts

179 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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Doubt it is a stunt, seems way too dodgy and risky - at one point they are going head over heels. That could have developed into a severe tumble if not corrected by the instructor.

There are plenty of these vids out there, they are normally uploaded so that other DZs can learn from others mistakes, recognise similar faults in the kit, etc.

Steve Zodiac

314 posts

143 months

Saturday 26th May 2012
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Engineer1 said:
Any chance it's a stunt in the jackass mold and there's extra safety kit that can't be seen, otherwise ahy post something that blatantly shows something so dodgy?
yep, I'm calling 'Viral Video'

Granny has a ton of make up on, and who would post that with the Rock music soundtrack? certainly not Mr regular parachute jump video recorder man, who tries to help but for some reason can't quite gat a grip??
The regular street clothes help with the visual drama as a jump suit would not show bare granny flesh!

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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You can see at 1:29 it's not a granny!
And at 1:44 when the door is opened there's a cut.

Viral. (is that Greenday?)

Sonic

4,007 posts

207 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Just doing a bit more research, does seem legit, with an FAA investigation against the company, the company owner confirming the incident and saying that it was a year ago, and a tv interview with the granny concerned.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8473627/skydiver-...

"Terrifying video has been posted online of an 80-year-old woman slipping out of a parachute during a tandem skydive and coming close to falling to her death.

The elderly woman, named Laverne, fell out of her harness, leaving her clinging desperately to her instructor as they fell to the ground in Ocampo, west of San Francisco.

Regulatory authority the FAA is now investigating the skydiving company involved, the Parachute Center, after footage of the incident went viral on the internet.

The footage shows Laverne excited about the skydive before boarding the plane, but appearing to have a change of heart when about to jump.

Laverne clearly says “no” and clings to the door of the plane, but her instructor pulls her hands off and pushes her out.

She and the instructor somersault out of the plane, spinning multiple times before the parachute is released and Laverne begins to slip out of the harness.

The video was uploaded to YouTube last week, but when ninemsn contacted the Parachute Center by phone a representative said the incident happened more than a year ago before abruptly hanging up."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/26/laverne-e...

"Laverne Everett may have had 79 previous birthdays, but it's fair to say that this one was probably the worst.

To celebrate her 80th last May, the octogenarian chose to go skydiving, something she'd wanted to do for at least ten years. But the jump didn't go as planned, and now her sister has posted the video to YouTube to share, CBS Sacramento reports.

While still on terra firma, Laverne says in the video that she's excited about the jump, which took place at the Parachute Center in Lodi, Calif. But when it's time to take the plunge, she appears to be [understandably] reluctant jump out of the plane, holding on to the sides of the aircraft. The man jumping with her finally frees her hands, and the duo tumbles.

But something goes terribly wrong early in the jump. Laverne appears to nearly fall out of the harness, and her partner hangs on to her for dear life.

“The upper harness came off, you know," she said in a recent interview with CBS Sacramento, available below. "Just slipped down, it was just the lower harness, is all I had.”

Fortunately, the parachute deploys and the pair lands. The video ends with people on the ground rushing over to the aid of the Laverne and her partner.

“This happened a long time ago and everything worked as advertised,” Bill Dause, the owner of the Parachute Center, said in a statement to ABC News. “No one got hurt or injured.”

But the Parachute Center has had its share of accidents. According to CBS Sacramento, at least eight people have died at the Parachute Center in the last decade, most recently in April.

News10 reports that the facility may have to pay $900,000 in fines to the FAA for incidents unrelated to Everett's. Additionally, News10 also reports that the company is facing at least three civil lawsuits.

ABC News spoke to the Federal Aviation Administration about this specific incident, so click over there to learn about what the FAA is doing about Everett's jump.

According to the United States Parachute Association, 21 fatal skydiving accidents were recorded in the United States in 2010. In 2009, 16 fatal accidents were recorded."

Edited by Sonic on Monday 28th May 19:41

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Not this one, but...
What is the tipping point for a bit of nerves vs outright terror?

Do you immediately say 'No? OK then' at the first point of worry as I suspect most people would be scared at their first jump.