A hero

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Jasandjules

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69,904 posts

229 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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Just seen on the news that a fellow drowned in Sussex yesterday, whilst saving two young kids. Those kids were not related to him. Condolences to the family.

That is a hero, not some overpaid footballer.

That is all.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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What do footballers have to do with it?

Regiment

2,799 posts

159 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
What do footballers have to do with it?
Presumably because footballers are often seen as heroes to many in this country.

andym1603

1,812 posts

172 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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Yes a true hero. A member of the public helping somebody not known to them and
paying the ultimate sacrifice.
Sadly this happens all to often now.
Condolences to his family.

essexplumber

7,751 posts

173 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
What do footballers have to do with it?
Because if you don't like football all footballers are overpayed scum.

All cricketers are wkers.

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

161 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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essexplumber said:
Because if you don't like football all footballers are overpayed scum.

All cricketers are wkers.
And as for racing drivers, sheesh, fkers the lot of 'em.

martin84

5,366 posts

153 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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Yet the anti-footballer brigade will have no problem watching a film which earned its lead actor several hundreds of millions.

essexplumber

7,751 posts

173 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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Gwagon111 said:
essexplumber said:
Because if you don't like football all footballers are overpayed scum.

All cricketers are wkers.
And as for racing drivers, sheesh, fkers the lot of 'em.
And don't get me started on fking sychronised swimmers grumpy

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Yeah fk the footballers

I mean its not like a lot of them give up most of their childhood and dedicate years of their life to training for the slim chance they might be one of the best in the world is it? Or that even when they do make it they will be lucky to play past 35 due to the tolls it takes on their bodies, if they haven't had a career ending injury prior to that, fk em what right have they got to try and earn the best they can

We all know the truth, they sit around being lazy and then one day at about 18-19 a premier league manager will see em playing down the park and immediately sign them up for 30,000,000 pounds, anyone could do it but they preferred that job in IT instead

Dixie68

3,091 posts

187 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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No argument from me that footballers put in a lot of effort & play in a sport followed by millions, but the OPs point I think was that calling them heroes is ridiculous. As he said, the bloke who died saving the lives of kids today is a hero.

dmulally

6,194 posts

180 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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I'm sure the OP could'nt care less about football supporters but more the superlatives thrown about by the media about what constitutes a hero.

Anyway, what a shame he died. He probably didnt think twice before jumping in. Poor guy.

Du1point8

21,608 posts

192 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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anonymous said:
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Yes that is more of a hero than anyone in any of the wars put together that defended their country... cause they play a sport.

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Du1point8 said:
Yes that is more of a hero than anyone in any of the wars put together that defended their country... cause they play a sport.
Well, of course. How silly of him not to immediately compare a footballer to a soldier at war. The link was obvious, surely!

Wait, what?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
What do footballers have to do with it?
Footballers get called heroes or described as being heroic often in the media. The OP is saying he doesn't think they are heroic especially compared with someone that puts themselves in danger for others.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Context.

A footballer or his actions may be described heroic for making a substantial, game changing difference during a match. That is in the context of a game.

That is not to say it's comparable to someone doing something truly heroic in the context of life.

Sadly, you all too often when the good weather hits you see people drowning in an attempt to save others. People seem to forget that a couple of days heat doesn't significantly warm up large bodies of water.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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el stovey said:
Footballers get called heroes or described as being heroic often in the media. The OP is saying he doesn't think they are heroic especially compared with someone that puts themselves in danger for others.
I got the point, thanks very much, I just think that dragging the footballers into it is a bit pointless. Just commend the guy who sacrificed himself rather than making pointless points about footballers. Of course, that is what he gets for taking notice of the media, (who do it for many different people, not just footballers).

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
Sadly, you all too often when the good weather hits you see people drowning in an attempt to save others. People seem to forget that a couple of days heat doesn't significantly warm up large bodies of water.
I don't think they're doing it because the water is warm. In fact, it's the opposite; the water is still cool, and they are warm.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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iphonedyou said:
I don't think they're doing it because the water is warm. In fact, it's the opposite; the water is still cool, and they are warm.
That's what he said.

singlecoil

33,622 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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The worst media mis-use of the word 'hero' recently was the pilot who landed the plane on the river in New York. Sure, his skill saved the passengers but it also saved him. 'Hero', IMO, should be reserved for people who willingly put themselves at risk to help others.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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iphonedyou said:
10 Pence Short said:
Sadly, you all too often when the good weather hits you see people drowning in an attempt to save others. People seem to forget that a couple of days heat doesn't significantly warm up large bodies of water.
I don't think they're doing it because the water is warm. In fact, it's the opposite; the water is still cool, and they are warm.
You'll have to forgive me because I'm not sure how your response relates to what I said?

Large bodies of water can remain extremely cold, despite warm air temperatures. The shock to a very warm body when entering extremely cold water can be debilitating- enough to stop you being able to keep yourself above the surface.

What at first seemed like a great invitation to cool down can in fact be an invitation to end up dead.

Sadly it happens up here in the Lakes more often than it should.