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Jimbeaux
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OK, so the 13 Presidential candidates are down to an ex official of the Mubarak regime and a Muslim Brotherhood dude. The MB man is running on a plarform of installing Sharia Law and proclaiming Egypt an Islamic Republic. The other guy is the other guy. One citizen interviewed stated that the Mubarek official being elected would make the sacrafices of the uprising be in vein. Another loudly stated that we do not want to be another Iran.
So, who will win? What type of nation will Egypt become? Would the people fall in line with the MB candidate's plans?
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Elroy Blue
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The MB sent a mob to ransack the offices of the other contender yesterday. Set it on fire.
I think that tells you everything of what Egypt faces. The MB won't accept anything other than outright power and they don't care how they get it.
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Du1point8
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What can I say the people who did the revolution f  ked up and f ked up bad... They didn't realise that MB had such a following, thought that they could get a new age person in to lead them forwards.... Along come MB who have been waiting for a day such as this for 30 years, in those 30 years they have been gathering followers, however they would plunge Egypt into another 30 years of nothingness, it wouldn't grow, laws would go backwards, the police/army still in charge (MB doesn't want to run that side of it), blah blah blah... Nice idea with the revolution, but its going to cause more problems than the previous president did and quite a few people realise this and some actually want Mubarak back, cause even though he was an ass, he was their ass and predictable.
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Jimbeaux
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Elroy Blue said: The MB sent a mob to ransack the offices of the other contender yesterday. Set it on fire.
I think that tells you everything of what Egypt faces. The MB won't accept anything other than outright power and they don't care how they get it. Which begs the question; will the military turn over power to them if they win? It looks like trouble either way. We will soon see if they are anywhere near ready for the responsibility of Democracy.
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scenario8
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I would have thought it unlikely the MB started the trouble since the other candidate (firmly from the Mubarak school) is more likely to benefit from the sense of unrest. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-182454...It wouldn't surprise me if the attack was good old fashioned shenanigans by the establishment. In answer to Jimbeaux's question however, whichever way this election goes looks like trouble. I hope not but I fear so. A shame as a modrn secular Egypt must be the best option (for the West, and the majority of Egyptians).
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Jimbeaux
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I suppose that if the MB wins, it is expected that they will want to point all of their pointy objects toward Israel, as a matter of course. Would the military comply?
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Jimbeaux
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As I tried to point out in my "Understanding Islam" thread, true Islam is nothing to be afraid of. However, there are signs that the MB is more of the fundi flavor and may try to emulate the Iranian style of leadership.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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Jimbeaux said: As I tried to point out in my "Understanding Islam" thread, true Islam is nothing to be afraid of. Yes it is. People who believe there's an invisible, magic man in the sky scare me. Just like I'd be concerned if an adult told me he had fairies at the bottom of his garden. Apparently sane people believing nonsense...be afraid.
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Jimbeaux
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Jimbeaux said: As I tried to point out in my "Understanding Islam" thread, true Islam is nothing to be afraid of. Yes it is. People who believe there's an invisible, magic man in the sky scare me. Just like I'd be concerned if an adult told me he had fairies at the bottom of his garden. Apparently sane people believing nonsense...be afraid. I think you know what I mean. As for fairies, they do exist; I have been to SanFrancisco and seen them spriting about.
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AndrewW-G
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The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country
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Jimbeaux
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AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country That would be doubly bad seeing how many irreplacable things are in Egypt. I suspect we will see the military not willing to yield power to Iranian-style religi-crats and the MB supporters (not acknowledged by the MB of course) carrying out the usual style of attacks(this time against the military). Sort of civil warish. I hope I am incorrect.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country Yes, the Sphinx and the Pyramids will definitely be anti Islamic and will have to go.
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AndrewW-G
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TwigtheWonderkid said: AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country Yes, the Sphinx and the Pyramids will definitely be anti Islamic and will have to go. It may sound a little daft, however there is recent precedent for the destruction of none Islamic icons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
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Pesty
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Not sure probaly Vote for Sharia.
Meanwhile nobody seems to have noticed two Extreme Muslim groups with Jihad and al qaeda support have formed an Islamic and sharia state in a country bigger than France(Mali)
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Jimbeaux
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TwigtheWonderkid said: AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country Yes, the Sphinx and the Pyramids will definitely be anti Islamic and will have to go. Don't laugh just yet; enough c4 or dynamite can move mountains. 
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12gauge
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AndrewW-G said: Not daft at all. Those buddist statues were destroyed only a few years back too. This is true Islam. Saudi - Wahhabi Islam - is as pure Islam as you can get, and its what all muslim states tend toward. Anything that is considered to be 'non-islamic' is fair game.
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TwigtheWonderkid
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Jimbeaux said: TwigtheWonderkid said: AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country Yes, the Sphinx and the Pyramids will definitely be anti Islamic and will have to go. Don't laugh just yet; enough c4 or dynamite can move mountains. Maybe they can be convinced that fitting the Sphinx with a giant burka is the way forward. That way it may survive a bit longer.
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Jimbeaux
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Jimbeaux said: TwigtheWonderkid said: AndrewW-G said: The religion of peace will use any means at their disposal to either win now, or take power over the next 6 months . . . . .my thoughts are with the Egyptian people who are going to be the victims in this and also with the Egyptian history / cultural treasures, that may go the same way as the cultural treasures of Afghanistan did when the Taliban were "cleansing" the country Yes, the Sphinx and the Pyramids will definitely be anti Islamic and will have to go. Don't laugh just yet; enough c4 or dynamite can move mountains. Maybe they can be convinced that fitting the Sphinx with a giant burka is the way forward. That way it may survive a bit longer. You may be onto something. 
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Jimbeaux
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Jimbeaux said: Which begs the question; will the military turn over power to them if they win? It looks like trouble either way. We will soon see if they are anywhere near ready for the responsibility of Democracy. The military won't want to turn over power. What dictatorship willingly gives up power? The question is - can the MIB motivate enough support to make it impossible for the military to remain in power? With regards to being "ready for the responsibility for democracy" that is irrelevant. The same could be said if many other countries
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