Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

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Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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scherzkeks said:
Our intel agencies have a history of sex smears. Right now Wiki has some of the old documents up from the FBI threatening to smear Martin Luther King in a similar manner.

Futhermore, there was also a recent attempt to smear Assange as a pedo; info. breaking down the situation is also at Wiki and ZH.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/hillary-c...
You'd think that bods would know these endeavours will never end well for them, since the anonymous/wikileaks/4chan/billionbillionnerdnet lot will always track down the origin via the internet highway.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Halb said:
scherzkeks said:
Our intel agencies have a history of sex smears. Right now Wiki has some of the old documents up from the FBI threatening to smear Martin Luther King in a similar manner.

Futhermore, there was also a recent attempt to smear Assange as a pedo; info. breaking down the situation is also at Wiki and ZH.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/hillary-c...
You'd think that bods would know these endeavours will never end well for them, since the anonymous/wikileaks/4chan/billionbillionnerdnet lot will always track down the origin via the internet highway.
...and that's one of the reasons they spend so much time tracking them down...

Halb

53,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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jshell said:
...and that's one of the reasons they spend so much time tracking them down...
That the government bods are stupid?

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Halb said:
jshell said:
...and that's one of the reasons they spend so much time tracking them down...
That the government bods are stupid?
I think it has more to do with arrogance and the assumption that they still have primary control over what information gets disseminated and taken seriously among the public.

That is changing. The pedo smear is something that could never have been exposed so quickly and effectively in the past.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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This is a few years old but it would suggest that there isn't really the will in America to prosecute him.

washingtonpost said:
The Justice Department has all but concluded it will not bring charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for publishing classified documents because government lawyers said they could not do so without also prosecuting U.S. news organizations and journalists, according to U.S. officials.

The officials stressed that a formal decision has not been made, and a grand jury investigating WikiLeaks remains impaneled, but they said there is little possibility of bringing a case against Assange, unless he is implicated in criminal activity other than releasing online top-secret military and diplomatic documents.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/julian-assange-unlikely-to-face-us-charges-over-publishing-classified-documents/2013/11/25/dd27decc-55f1-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html?client=safari

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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One of his lawyers says that he will stand by his promise and would leave the Ecuadorian embassy.

"Melinda Taylor, a member of Mr Assange's legal team, insisted that those previous comments made about the implications of the Manning case still stand.

"Everything that he has said he's standing by," she said."


http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I'm sure he will do, and the timing will ensure Trump will be made to look like a cruel merciless leader hell bent on revenge by the lefty press...

Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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williamp said:
I'm sure he will do, and the timing will ensure Trump will be made to look like a cruel merciless leader hell bent on revenge by the lefty press...
As others have noted above, the US currently don't care. It's the Swedes who want him.

Though don't they have a statute of limitations on what he's accused of? I wonder if that's run its course now.

Or has he just run out of cheesy wetsuits, boxes of Kleenex and exceeded the Ecuadorian embassy's PlusNet account's fair use policy?

Regardless, hopefully our plod will grab him and kick him out of the country. Not too bothered where, anywhere just not here.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Murph7355 said:
As others have noted above, the US currently don't care. It's the Swedes who want him.

Though don't they have a statute of limitations on what he's accused of? I wonder if that's run its course now.

Or has he just run out of cheesy wetsuits, boxes of Kleenex and exceeded the Ecuadorian embassy's PlusNet account's fair use policy?

Regardless, hopefully our plod will grab him and kick him out of the country. Not too bothered where, anywhere just not here.
:sigh:

Work it though.

Leaves Embassy - Arrested by UK Plod.

UK Plod either extradite to Sweden or to USA 'for questioning'

If the latter the USA will arrest and 'question' him before releasing him with 'insufficient information to proceed with their proposed prosecution' and then extradite him to Sweden.

Meatballs all round.



Lucas Ayde

3,541 posts

167 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Finlandia said:
Does this mean that the Swedish rape charges "disappear"? wink
There aren't any 'charges' to disappear. He is wanted for questioning about an allegation - he is not charged with anything, currently.

Not that you would know, as whenever the mainstream news media discuss the matter they repeatedly refer to non-existant 'charges' as they know it will sink in to the public consciousness and reinforce what is really an extremely flimsy narrative.

Comprehensive summary of what is alleged to have happened, here:

http://observer.com/2016/02/exclusive-new-docs-thr...

Assange repeatedly offered to answer questioning from the Swedish authorities in the embassy but until recently the Swedes weren't interested. Still no word of what is happening now that they finally have questioned him. It's possible that they could go ahead and issue an actual charge.


Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I may be wrong, but I think Trump is a safer bet for JA than Hillary would have been, she had a personal issue with JA, for Trump JA is just someone who dug out dirt about his political opponents.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Be interesting to see if the same is true a few years down the line.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Lucas Ayde said:
Finlandia said:
Does this mean that the Swedish rape charges "disappear"? wink
There aren't any 'charges' to disappear. He is wanted for questioning about an allegation - he is not charged with anything, currently.

Not that you would know, as whenever the mainstream news media discuss the matter they repeatedly refer to non-existant 'charges' as they know it will sink in to the public consciousness and reinforce what is really an extremely flimsy narrative.

Comprehensive summary of what is alleged to have happened, here:

http://observer.com/2016/02/exclusive-new-docs-thr...

Assange repeatedly offered to answer questioning from the Swedish authorities in the embassy but until recently the Swedes weren't interested. Still no word of what is happening now that they finally have questioned him. It's possible that they could go ahead and issue an actual charge.
I know pretty much all about it, and it rings very false, it's all too political and there's been way too much time and money spent in the process.

Wonder why the gang raped wheelchair bound woman had her case shut down, even with DNA proof and the rapists living in the same town, the so called justice system didn't do a fraction of what it's done to nail JA.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

135 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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BlackLabel said:
One of his lawyers says that he will stand by his promise and would leave the Ecuadorian embassy.

"Melinda Taylor, a member of Mr Assange's legal team, insisted that those previous comments made about the implications of the Manning case still stand.

"Everything that he has said he's standing by," she said."


http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...
In a development that will shock no-one, he's decided that because the sentence was commuted rather than there being a pardon that this doesn't actually count and he'll be staying in his hidey hole.

I'm sure the Ecuadorians thought they'd finally get their sofa back but apparently no such luck.

jshell

11,006 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Murph7355 said:
As others have noted above, the US currently don't care. It's the Swedes who want him.

rofl

KTF

9,788 posts

149 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Murph7355

37,649 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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KTF said:
Apparently he has changed his mind: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/assange...
Jonesey noted it yesterday. No surprise to anyone.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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scherzkeks said:
jshell said:
Andy Zarse said:
jshell said:
But, Sweden are pursuing Assange who is accused of rape for taking off a condom whilst having consensual sex? Pull the other one...
jshell displaying the Donald Trump attitude towards respecting women, thus:

If a dumb broad says please don't cough your yoghurt inside my body, it's perfectly okay to ignore the stupid bh's instruction, just tell her to brace herself and be grateful.


How terribly twenty first century of you.
I'm saying that it is VERY FISHY that they are pursuing Assange when they should be dealing with the forced, violent and gang rapes that are sweeping Sweden.
Our intel agencies have a history of sex smears. Right now Wiki has some of the old documents up from the FBI threatening to smear Martin Luther King in a similar manner.

Futhermore, there was also a recent attempt to smear Assange as a pedo; info. breaking down the situation is also at Wiki and ZH.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-19/hillary-c...
Yes absolutely, it is far more likely to be a compicated international security services sting, as opposed to Assange just fking a couple of girls who were in awe of him <swoon>.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Andy Zarse said:
Yes absolutely, it is far more likely to be a compicated international security services sting, as opposed to Assange just fking a couple of girls who were in awe of him <swoon>.
Yes, given who Assange is, I would say it is more likely to be the former.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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scherzkeks said:
Andy Zarse said:
Yes absolutely, it is far more likely to be a compicated international security services sting, as opposed to Assange just fking a couple of girls who were in awe of him <swoon>.
Yes, given who Assange is, I would say it is more likely to be the former.
And you would be wrong.

Have you read up on the backgrounds of the women he sexually assaulted (for want of a better expression)?