Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
Possessing a plot of land doesn't make it part of your home country. Otherwise, my house would be part of Ireland, but instead it's part of Islington (well known sovereign nation).
Is it fact or fiction that a chap declared his house a nation state, the government said fine and posted border guards at his front gates and didn't let him out of his house as he didn't have a visa agreement with the UK?Let me refer you both to the documentary Passport to Pimlico https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5k31XtDGeg. Isn't The Peoples Republic of Islington a Nuclear Free Zone?
Riff Raff said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
E24man said:
Oh dear, it appears he's getting poorly.
It's a tried and tested route!! The good old "Ernest Saunders exit".And British military system hackers. Ooops I meant harmless British UFO hunters........
jshell said:
Who bombed Libyan Airlines?
Heh! Quite.Curtis has a good stab... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2012/10/hes_...
DonnyMac said:
Breadvan72 said:
Possessing a plot of land doesn't make it part of your home country. Otherwise, my house would be part of Ireland, but instead it's part of Islington (well known sovereign nation).
Is it fact or fiction that a chap declared his house a nation state, the government said fine and posted border guards at his front gates and didn't let him out of his house as he didn't have a visa agreement with the UK?So there are eight police officers and video surveillance cameras outside the embassy at any given time at a cost of over £10,000 a day. Is this really needed I wonder?
heraldsun.com.au said:
Scotland Yard has spent $5m to guard Assange at Ecuadorian embassy in London
THE cost of guarding Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has blown out to more than $5 million as he prepares to mark his first anniversary taking refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
The revelation comes as the Australian activist told Spanish media how he obtained new internal communications about himself from inside the British government's most sensitive intelligence communications agency, the GCHQ.
And those communications include chatter from staff, some of whom suspect the activist is being set up.
On May 30 last year, the British Supreme Court dismissed an appeal and ruled the 41-year-old should be extradited to Sweden to face accusations he sexually assaulted two women there.
But instead, the Australian fled to the embassy of Ecuador located in upmarket Kensington in London, seeking asylum on the grounds that the charges were a ruse to send him to the US where he faces claims of leaking more than 250,000 sensitive government cables.
Scotland Yard has revealed that since June 19, when he was formally granted asylum, it has cost more than $5.2 million to provide around-the-clock police guards around the embassy.
With extra security from time to time for demonstrations, the constant police presence costs about $19,000 a day.
There are about eight police officers and video surveillance cameras outside the embassy at any given time.
Assange, who denies the rape allegations, has vowed to remain in his bolt-hole for however long it takes for the Swedish and British governments to agree he will not be sent to the US.
Meanwhile, speaking to Spanish television at his diplomatic sanctuary, Assange has revealed that under the Data Protection Act he requested all communications about him from the GCHQ.
In one 2012 email, an officer wrote to a colleague: "They are trying to arrest him on suspicion of (XYZ) ... it is definitely a fit-up ... their timings are too convenient right after Cablegate".
Another says: "He reckons he will stay in the Ecuadorian embassy for six to 12 months where the charges against him will be dropped but that is not how it works now is it? Hes a fool - highly optimistic fool."
The GCHQ confirmed the non-classified emails but said no decisions were taken from the remarks from general staff.
"We have reminded staff of the importance of professional behaviour at all times," a spokesman said, reinforcing the emails Assange was entitled to receive under the Act were merely observations and not classified information.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/scotland-yard-has-spent-5m-to-guard-assange-at-ecuadorian-embassy-in-london/story-fni0xs61-1226651679864THE cost of guarding Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has blown out to more than $5 million as he prepares to mark his first anniversary taking refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.
The revelation comes as the Australian activist told Spanish media how he obtained new internal communications about himself from inside the British government's most sensitive intelligence communications agency, the GCHQ.
And those communications include chatter from staff, some of whom suspect the activist is being set up.
On May 30 last year, the British Supreme Court dismissed an appeal and ruled the 41-year-old should be extradited to Sweden to face accusations he sexually assaulted two women there.
But instead, the Australian fled to the embassy of Ecuador located in upmarket Kensington in London, seeking asylum on the grounds that the charges were a ruse to send him to the US where he faces claims of leaking more than 250,000 sensitive government cables.
Scotland Yard has revealed that since June 19, when he was formally granted asylum, it has cost more than $5.2 million to provide around-the-clock police guards around the embassy.
With extra security from time to time for demonstrations, the constant police presence costs about $19,000 a day.
There are about eight police officers and video surveillance cameras outside the embassy at any given time.
Assange, who denies the rape allegations, has vowed to remain in his bolt-hole for however long it takes for the Swedish and British governments to agree he will not be sent to the US.
Meanwhile, speaking to Spanish television at his diplomatic sanctuary, Assange has revealed that under the Data Protection Act he requested all communications about him from the GCHQ.
In one 2012 email, an officer wrote to a colleague: "They are trying to arrest him on suspicion of (XYZ) ... it is definitely a fit-up ... their timings are too convenient right after Cablegate".
Another says: "He reckons he will stay in the Ecuadorian embassy for six to 12 months where the charges against him will be dropped but that is not how it works now is it? Hes a fool - highly optimistic fool."
The GCHQ confirmed the non-classified emails but said no decisions were taken from the remarks from general staff.
"We have reminded staff of the importance of professional behaviour at all times," a spokesman said, reinforcing the emails Assange was entitled to receive under the Act were merely observations and not classified information.
You also have to factor in the embarrassment factor if he managed to walk out of the door and get away. The Met have little choice but to camp on the doorstep and wait it out and if that costs money, then it costs money.
But how 8 policemen and a camera can cost £10,000 a day is a mystery.
But how 8 policemen and a camera can cost £10,000 a day is a mystery.
Scuffers said:
then we get to the question, define rape.....
Well, that is for Sweden to worry about. They have an arrest warrant. Worrying about guilty, or not is down to trial in Sweden. I'm a fan of the whole wiki leaks thing, by the way, but the politics of that, with the rape allegation is not really a concern for UK authorities, they are merely acting on the warrant. TheHeretic said:
Scuffers said:
then we get to the question, define rape.....
Well, that is for Sweden to worry about. They have an arrest warrant. Worrying about guilty, or not is down to trial in Sweden. I'm a fan of the whole wiki leaks thing, by the way, but the politics of that, with the rape allegation is not really a concern for UK authorities, they are merely acting on the warrant. TheHeretic said:
Scuffers said:
then we get to the question, define rape.....
Well, that is for Sweden to worry about. They have an arrest warrant. Worrying about guilty, or not is down to trial in Sweden. I'm a fan of the whole wiki leaks thing, by the way, but the politics of that, with the rape allegation is not really a concern for UK authorities, they are merely acting on the warrant. There are some 18 rapes a day in Sweden, none of these have come anywhere close to this case in the spending of resources, why?
Finlandia said:
Seeing as you pretty much get away with rape in Sweden, why waste a lot of resources on one guy who had consensual sex with two women?
There are some 18 rapes a day in Sweden, none of these have come anywhere close to this case in the spending of resources, why?
You heard it here first, people. 18 rapes a day in Sweden, so why bother. There are some 18 rapes a day in Sweden, none of these have come anywhere close to this case in the spending of resources, why?
Finlandia said:
Seeing as you pretty much get away with rape in Sweden, why waste a lot of resources on one guy who had consensual sex with two women?
There are some 18 rapes a day in Sweden, none of these have come anywhere close to this case in the spending of resources, why?
From a UK perspective the rape is pretty irrelevant now. He's very publicly in breach of his bail conditions and there is an extradition order out for him, he won't be allowed to sit it out no matter how long it takes.There are some 18 rapes a day in Sweden, none of these have come anywhere close to this case in the spending of resources, why?
WhereamI said:
From a UK perspective the rape is pretty irrelevant now. He's very publicly in breach of his bail conditions and there is an extradition order out for him, he won't be allowed to sit it out no matter how long it takes.
The above is the important point, the original charge is largely irrelevant, he can't be allowed to hole up in an embassy and wait it out.RYH64E said:
WhereamI said:
From a UK perspective the rape is pretty irrelevant now. He's very publicly in breach of his bail conditions and there is an extradition order out for him, he won't be allowed to sit it out no matter how long it takes.
The above is the important point, the original charge is largely irrelevant, he can't be allowed to hole up in an embassy and wait it out.would it not be better to attempt to find a palatable solution to this to bring it to a close rather than being pig-headed about it and keep spending our tax money on something that actually really is SFA to do with us as a country....?
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