Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

[Andy Zarse]

scherzkeks said:

Andy Zarse said:

scherzkeks said:

Andy Zarse said:

You know this how?

Because the authorities sat on their hands rather than question him. If the case had anything of substance to it, they would have simply interviewed him and proceeded from there.

Baloney.

Yes, logic is difficult to argue against.

Indeed. Your daydreams less so.

[Andy Zarse]

SamHH said:

scherzkeks said:

Yes, logic is difficult to argue against.

Not questioning Assange in the UK is no more logically consistent with the allegations against him being a ruse than it is with those allegations being bona fide, is it?

Edited by SamHH on Friday 16th October 01:02

A ruse by Assange you say?

Seems you were spot on!

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/01/21/assange...

[jshell]

Andy Zarse said:

SamHH said:

scherzkeks said:

Yes, logic is difficult to argue against.

Not questioning Assange in the UK is no more logically consistent with the allegations against him being a ruse than it is with those allegations being bona fide, is it?

Edited by SamHH on Friday 16th October 01:02

A ruse by Assange you say?

Seems you were spot on!

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/01/21/assange...

I loathe Assange, but if this story is true, I'd be trying to take avoiding action too: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-wikileaks-assang...

[anonymous-user]

Assange will do anything to avoid answering questions about his conduct. The conspiracy theory that this is all just a convoluted plot to grab him for the US is as absurd as are most conspiracy theories.

[Zod]

Breadvan72 said:

Assange will do anything to avoid answering questions about his conduct. The conspiracy theory that this is all just a convoluted plot to grab him for the US is as absurd as are most conspiracy theories.

One day, the Ecuadorians will decide they've had enough of him.

[jmorgan]

Zod said:

One day, the Ecuadorians will decide they've had enough of him.

Probably there already but wondering how to save face.

Like the great aunt that came to visit but will not go home.

[Astacus]

Andy Zarse said:

A ruse by Assange you say?

Seems you were spot on!

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/01/21/assange...

Shame really as an interview at the embassy was a perfect compromise. I wonder why all of a sudden, now its not. Probably spent too long locked away on is own and started to get a bit too paranoid.

[4x4Tyke]

Ever wondered why so many people are taken in by him, this might help.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2073748-mind-...

[tobinen]

Assange hoping a non-legally binding decision from a UN tribunal will save him: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35490910

[Oceanic]

I don't really get this, he has been free to leave the embassy when ever he wants, he has just chosen not to.

[anonymous-user]

Assange has had the benefit of due process all the way to the UK Supreme Court, and would receive due process in Sweden. The suggestion of arbitrary detention is fatuous.

[Zod]

He thinks that a ruling with no legal status from an obscure bunch of academics funded by the UN will give him legitimacy.

[Burwood]

I assume he spends 24/7 locked inside the consulate house-maybe with a small garden. Is that correct? It must be. What st existence. Then again, beats a prison cell i suppose.

[AJL308]

tobinen said:

Assange hoping a non-legally binding decision from a UN tribunal will save him: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35490910

I really don't get this at all and can't wait for this report to be published tomorrow as I can't see what legal logic is behind the decision that is being reported they have come to.

How on Earth can anyone conclude that he is being arbitrarily detained? He is in the Ecuadorian embassy by choice for the explicit reason (which he has happily admitted) of avoiding arrest under a lawful warrant.

Then again, perhaps this is a ruse? Perhaps that isn't the conclusion that will be published tomorrow and it was all to make him announce that he would come out if they find against him? Now that would be a nice conspiracy theory!

On the subject of Ecuador - is it even legal to use an Embassy to harbour a person who is wanted under a lawfully issued warrant? This isn't what Embassy's are supposed to be for, surely?

[Europa1]

I am struggling as to where the "arbitrary detention" bit comes in - as I recall he was on bail, living in quite a nice house, he voluntarily skipped bail and voluntarily pitched up at the Ecuadorian Embassy.

[RYH64E]

Burwood said:

I assume he spends 24/7 locked inside the consulate house-maybe with a small garden. Is that correct? It must be. What st existence. Then again, beats a prison cell i suppose.

But this self-imposed prison sentence is on top of anything a court might eventually impose.

[Astacus]

4x4Tyke said:

Ever wondered why so many people are taken in by him, this might help.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2073748-mind-...

Pay walled

[Astacus]

4x4Tyke said:

Ever wondered why so many people are taken in by him, this might help.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2073748-mind-...

Pay walled

[kitz]

Breadvan72 said:

Assange has had the benefit of due process all the way to the UK Supreme Court, and would receive due process in Sweden. The suggestion of arbitrary detention is fatuous.

If you believe 'due process ' is not influenced by political pressure in a case like this you are naive .
There are plenty of recent examples as well as the many Irish republican sympathisers who were banged up in the 70s .
Bloody Sunday inquiry anyone ...?

[Zod]

kitz said:

Breadvan72 said:

Assange has had the benefit of due process all the way to the UK Supreme Court, and would receive due process in Sweden. The suggestion of arbitrary detention is fatuous.

If you believe 'due process ' is not influenced by political pressure in a case like this you are naive .
There are plenty of recent examples as well as the many Irish republican sympathisers who were banged up in the 70s .
Bloody Sunday inquiry anyone ...?

Diplock Courts were a short-term aberration. What about the Bloody Sunday Inquiry? Would you rather it hadn't taken place?

The idea that the courts pay heed to politicians in this country is laughable. Politicians wish the courts did pay them heed, but they do not.