Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

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The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Halb said:
The Mad Monk said:
I don't believe that very much (extra) money has been spent on this. There are police outside the Ecuadorean Embassy, but they would be paid anyway.
Back in 2015, it was 12million.
Don't think so.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Halb said:
The Mad Monk said:
I don't believe that very much (extra) money has been spent on this. There are police outside the Ecuadorean Embassy, but they would be paid anyway.
Back in 2015, it was 12million.
Don't think so.
The comments from the police below do suggest that there was a fair bit of extra police resources used to keep an eye on Assange.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Lucas Ayde

3,559 posts

168 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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simonbrooks said:
If I understand correctly, isn't he still wanted for bail issues in the UK? Enjoy the embasy a little longer! He really is a muppet! 5years in a small embassy he'd have been done and dusted by now. The americans didn't want him at the time! What an odious little man he is!
The Americans have clearly wanted him since the leaks from Manning came out. All it would take was the right opportunity to get him extradited to the US and they could bring a charge and get an extradition.

As has finally been proven, the rape allegations (not charges, he was never actually charged) were a crock of crap. The fact that it's taken so long to get the matter resolved and he's had to face an international extradition warrant just to face 'questioning' (remember - no charges brought) should tell you that there was more going on behind the scenes.

Lucas Ayde

3,559 posts

168 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Transmitter Man said:
Have any of the many PH Assange bashers any comments regarding changing their views of the guy now that the last Swedish charge has been dropped.

I'm all ears.

Phil
There were never any charges, only allegations leading to the police wanting to question him. Although that didn't seem to bother the media (especially the BBC) who repeatedly stated that he was wanted on a charge of rape.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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Lucas Ayde said:
Transmitter Man said:
Have any of the many PH Assange bashers any comments regarding changing their views of the guy now that the last Swedish charge has been dropped.

I'm all ears.

Phil
There were never any charges, only allegations leading to the police wanting to question him. Although that didn't seem to bother the media (especially the BBC) who repeatedly stated that he was wanted on a charge of rape.
Impossible! Fine, upstanding mainstream Western media outlets would never sink so low.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
Halb said:
The Mad Monk said:
I don't believe that very much (extra) money has been spent on this. There are police outside the Ecuadorean Embassy, but they would be paid anyway.
Back in 2015, it was 12million.
Don't think so.
It was 12 million in 2015.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/12/juli...

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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The Mad Monk said:
I don't believe that very much (extra) money has been spent on this. There are police outside the Ecuadorean Embassy, but they would be paid anyway.
In that case we must be saving billions by not having a 24 hour 365 day a year police presence outside the hundred plus other forign embassies in the capital.... yes?

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Friday 19th May 2017
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In effect he has been under house arrest, or should I say posh house arrest for all this time. He must be desperate to get out but cannot as he still thinks the USA will pounce.

Imagine all those Latin American soap operas he has to watch over the years, poor bugger


jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Gandahar said:
In effect he has been under house arrest, or should I say posh house arrest for all this time. He must be desperate to get out but cannot as he still thinks the USA will pounce.

Imagine all those Latin American soap operas he has to watch over the years, poor bugger
And the weather forecasts. Scorchio.

Sa Calobra

37,141 posts

211 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Why has Sweden dropped the charges?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
Why has Sweden dropped the charges?
Essentially he has successfully gamed the hopeless Swedish justice system.


Oceanic

731 posts

101 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Andy Zarse said:
Essentially he has successfully gamed the hopeless Swedish justice system.

Even if he had been successfully prosecuted he would have probably done a week or two in prison here (summer camp). Sad for the alleged rape victim either way.

bitchstewie

51,264 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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I suspect Assange will end up serving far more time holed up with a lack of vitamin D than he'd have got in Sweden.

He'll also end up in the US if he does step out of there.

Responsible Disclosure can be a good thing, but what WikiLeaks have turned into is anything but responsible.

Murph7355

37,717 posts

256 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Transmitter Man said:
Have any of the many PH Assange bashers any comments regarding changing their views of the guy now that the last Swedish charge has been dropped.

I'm all ears.

Phil
Nope. He's still a dick.

His being holed up in the spare room with the Ecuadorians is his own doing.

And the Swedes have dropped the desire to follow up with him on technicalities. As others have noted, Assange has probably spent more time holed up than he would ever have had he manned up. The Swedes are likely just being pragmatic.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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If I am right in thinking Swedish investigators interviewed him in the embassy, what more do they need to conclude whether or not they have sufficient evidence to charge him or not? Alternatively, and I don't know the Swedish legal system, but is it not possible to treat it as him refusing to be interviewed?

There doesn't appear to be any ID issues or forensic matters out standing, so I don't see what more they need.


frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Transmitter Man said:
Have any of the many PH Assange bashers any comments regarding changing their views of the guy now that the last Swedish charge has been dropped.

I'm all ears.

Phil
Nope. He's still a dick.

His being holed up in the spare room with the Ecuadorians is his own doing.

And the Swedes have dropped the desire to follow up with him on technicalities. As others have noted, Assange has probably spent more time holed up than he would ever have had he manned up. The Swedes are likely just being pragmatic.
Don't be ridiculous. If he had gone to Sweden he would then have been handed to the US and would never have seen daylight again.

The charges against him in Sweden were a farce. I do not condone sex assault against woman but basic logic points to the whole thing being a set up.

He still cannot leave the Embassy as he will be arrested, jailed and in the end handed to the US.


Roofless Toothless

5,666 posts

132 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Is it just a coincidence that this news about Assange comes practically to the day that Manning is released from prison?

E24man

6,718 posts

179 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Did I read somewhere that the time statute for this alleged offence actually ends in 2020 and should they choose, the Swedish Prosecutors could still prepare to charge again at any time up to then?

Add to that the potential jail sentence for braking UK bail rules and I can see Assanges self imposed incarceration lasting a good deal longer.

He broke the bail rules once so any step outside would see him arrested for that, and then once he gets in front of a Magistrate they'll quite rightly ask, "Is he a flight risk?"

"Well, err, maybe..."

"Remanded in custody, take him down."

It does appear that by chickening out of going back to Sweden he has rather snookered himself for a significant time until he mans up to face the music.

I still remember his frightened little face pleading to be left alone and in peace when all this first kicked off.

Hypocrite of the highest order.

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Saturday 20th May 2017
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Transmitter Man said:
Have any of the many PH Assange bashers any comments regarding changing their views of the guy now that the last Swedish charge has been dropped.

I'm all ears.

Phil
The charges have only been dropped as they were unable to serve him, whilst he is outside of Sweden he can refuse to accept the charge. This does not mean he is innocent or that there is not a case to answer. He has chosen to hide away in an Embassy for all these years, if he is so innocent and has nothing to hide then he should return to Sweden.