Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

[Silent1]

miniman said:

Currently seeking asylum at the Ecuador embassy in London. Seems to me that if you make a living for yourself the way he has, legging it to Ecuador is a pretty shoddy exit strategy.

He's been granted asylum according to my sources, another source is saying he wants asylum but wants to live in the embassy and wont leave unless they give him a a diplomatic passport

[OdramaSwimLaden]

Silent1 said:

He's been granted asylum according to my sources, another source is saying he wants asylum but wants to live in the embassy and wont leave unless they give him a a diplomatic passport

He will end up in the US via somewhere and will remain inside for a very very long time; possibly even the death penality is on the cards for treason.

[Silent1]

OdramaSwimLaden said:

Silent1 said:

He's been granted asylum according to my sources, another source is saying he wants asylum but wants to live in the embassy and wont leave unless they give him a a diplomatic passport

He will end up in the US via somewhere and will remain inside for a very very long time; possibly even the death penality is on the cards for treason.

How can he be tried for treason, this is the definition of treason:

The Dictionary said:

1. The crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
2. The action of betraying someone or something.

No. 2 doesn't count as it's not a country definition and by no. 1 it's not his country.

[Halb]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18514726

[miniman]

Australian Julian Assange fears extradition to Sweden because he might ultimately end up in America so he is seeking asylum in Ecuador. Quite how this is anything to do with us is beyond me. Sling the tt out on the next flight to anywhere and leave him to it.

[AndrewW-G]

Would I be correct in thinking that the people who put up his bail, will now be £200k out of pocket?

[miniman]

AndrewW-G said:

Would I be correct in thinking that the people who put up his bail, will now be £200k out of pocket?

There was certainly a mention of that (specifically Jemima Kahn) on R4 this morning.

[Murph7355]

I wonder what odds William Hill are giving for this chap having an "accident" somewhere.

[alfaman]

AndrewW-G said:

Would I be correct in thinking that the people who put up his bail, will now be £200k out of pocket?

Incorrect ... 240k.

I bet some of his 'supporters' are a bit miffed!

Can someone stay in an embassy indefinitely .. and if he tries to fly from UK to Ecuador , can't he just be arrested enroute to Heathrow as he is NOT a diplomat and does not [yet] have diplomatic status.

...or am I missing something

[alfaman]

miniman said:

Australian Julian Assange fears extradition to Sweden because he might ultimately end up in America so he is seeking asylum in Ecuador. Quite how this is anything to do with us is beyond me. Sling the tt out WHILE on the next flight to anywhere and leave him to it.

EFA

[AndrewW-G]

alfaman said:

Incorrect ... 240k.

the Damn BBC news was spreading lies and disinformation again

[TheHeretic]

He needs to address the rape/abuse charges, but the whole wiki leaks thing is absurd, and no different to Watergate, or the pentagon papers leak in the 70's.

[0000]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Did I hear it correctly? The judge said if we take the English meaning of lawful institution it means a court or judge however if we take the French meaning it means any official body so we'll use their meaning and rule the extradition is lawful.

Better than that. The French is open to interpretation and may be considered the same as the English meaning, or a broader meaning. They've interpreted it as the particular French interpretation that doesn't match the English.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Assange's biggest problem is his attempt to argue that Sweden is not a civilised country with a just and fair legal system!

Now Ecuador on the other hand....

"According to relatives of Quishpe, he was coerced into a confession. Ricardo Chaluisa, president of La Cocha community says the accused were fairly treated
"They were kept in a cesspit, naked, with the water up to their chest and their eyes covered," says Oswaldo Quishpe, an uncle."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1068...

[jshell]

I initially thought he was a force for good, but since wathcing the recent documentary and seeing that everyone that had dealings with him had abandoned him due to his unbelievably arrogant attitude and that he was offered the chance to avoid prosecution for attacking the 2 women, then I'm afraid all my sympathies 'went South'!

fk him!

[Silent1]

Ozzie Osmond said:

<...>
"They were kept in a cesspit, naked, with the water up to their chest and their eyes covered," says Oswaldo Quishpe, an uncle."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-1068...

I find that hard to believe, anyone who is up to their chest in water for longer than a couple of hours will die and if the water is colder than 10°C they wont last much longer than an hour.

ETA:

Water Temperature °C	Loss of Dexterity with no protective clothing	Exhaustion or Unconsciousness	Expected Time of Survival
0.3	Under 2 min.	Under 15 min.	Under 15 to 45 min.
0.3 to 4.5	Under 3 min.	15 to 30 min.	30 to 90 min.
4.5 to 10	Under 5 min.	30 to 60 min.	1 to 3 hrs.
10 to 15.5	10 to 15 min.	1 to 2 hrs.	1 to 6 hrs.
15.5 to 21	30 to 40 min.	2 to 7 hrs.	2 to 40 hrs.
21 to 26.5	1 to 2 hrs.	2 to 12 hrs.	3 hrs. to indefinite
Over 26.5	2 to 12 hrs.	Indefinite	Indefinite

Edited by Silent1 on Wednesday 20th June 09:53

[The Hypno-Toad]

Send in Lemiwinks and The Sparrow Prince, they'll get him out.

[pacman1]

I think people should remember he's done the world a favour with Wikileaks, uncovering the uncoverable. The yanks really aren't happy. And I think that's a good thing.

A good piece here from the Beeb, especially the short excerpt of the interview with President Rafael Correa of Ecuador. The 'mercans must be livid!

I guess for Julian re Ecuador, 'if we have the same enemy, then we must be friends'. He really is up against it, so anything goes as far as I'm concerned.

Crack on mate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18519380

[Murph7355]

pacman1 said:

I think people should remember he's done the world a favour with Wikileaks, uncovering the uncoverable. The yanks really aren't happy. And I think that's a good thing.

A good piece here from the Beeb, especially the short excerpt of the interview with President Rafael Correa of Ecuador. The 'mercans must be livid!

I guess for Julian re Ecuador, 'if we have the same enemy, then we must be friends'. He really is up against it, so anything goes as far as I'm concerned.

Crack on mate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18519380

Isn't he also wanted for questioning about rape charges in his home country?

[wolves_wanderer]

pacman1 said:

I think people should remember he's done the world a favour with Wikileaks, uncovering the uncoverable. The yanks really aren't happy. And I think that's a good thing.

quite. I mean, what's the odd rape here and there anyway?