Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court
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Breadvan72 said:
I vote for eharding as the wittiest man on PH. How I miss all that convivial drunkenness at West London Aero Club when totally failing to go flying. The weather would always clear up once we were three sheets to the breeze.
Happy days, sadly I haven't been able to get back there for a couple of years. I really should change my Full Flying membership to that of Country Member, but I still recall a member of my Pitts group who moved out to the sticks turning up back at the club and proudly explaining how much money he was saving on his monthly fee as he was now a Country Member being greeted with a chorus of "Yes, we remember".Edited by eharding on Monday 18th January 16:30
AJL308 said:
The Scandinavians, from what I can see, have a somewhat "laid back" attitude to serious sex crimes. Limitation periods on things like rape are rather disturbing to me, quite frankly. Why would you have something like that? These countries promote themselves as forward thinking and progressive so why on Earth would you have what is essentially a big "f
k you" to abuse victims? On the specific matter of Assange - anyone who thinks that the Swedish thing was some convoluted scheme to get him to the US is a muppet. It would have been more difficult to extradite him had he gone there as the UK would have to agree to it as well so why not just apply here? Makes a good story for his fantasist followers though.
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.k you" to abuse victims? On the specific matter of Assange - anyone who thinks that the Swedish thing was some convoluted scheme to get him to the US is a muppet. It would have been more difficult to extradite him had he gone there as the UK would have to agree to it as well so why not just apply here? Makes a good story for his fantasist followers though. jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? AJL308 said:
jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? Scandinavia has the clean, green image of integrity whereas anyone having lived there for years achieves a glimpse of what actually goes on in justice, finance, business, social services etc. It's not pretty!
jshell said:
AJL308 said:
jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? Scandinavia has the clean, green image of integrity whereas anyone having lived there for years achieves a glimpse of what actually goes on in justice, finance, business, social services etc. It's not pretty!
I am 58 and still quite idealistic, but Assange is no friend of progressive politics or idealistic values. He has been willingly or unwillingly a stooge for Putin. He is a most unworthy hero, and the conspiracy theories around him are absurd. He has been the beneficiary of endless amounts of fair process, to which he has responded with cynicism. At present, it looks like he will not be extradited, but still his benighted fans find something to complain about.
BrabusMog said:
jshell said:
AJL308 said:
jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? Scandinavia has the clean, green image of integrity whereas anyone having lived there for years achieves a glimpse of what actually goes on in justice, finance, business, social services etc. It's not pretty!
Roofies are very common and popular in Norway.
jshell said:
BrabusMog said:
jshell said:
AJL308 said:
jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? Scandinavia has the clean, green image of integrity whereas anyone having lived there for years achieves a glimpse of what actually goes on in justice, finance, business, social services etc. It's not pretty!
Roofies are very common and popular in Norway.
andy_s said:
jshell said:
BrabusMog said:
jshell said:
AJL308 said:
jshell said:
Having been deeply imbedded in a rape case involving 3 seperate trials in Scandinavia I can assure you that their justice system is incredibly male-centric and prosecuting sex crimes is almost impossible due to lack of motivation or will. The odds are stacked firmly against women, and children. That's partly why I was very suspicious of the Assange case in Sweden given that the extent of the 'rape' act was him removing a condom during consensual sex and later refusing to be STD tested. The victims being persuaded to pursue the complaint.
Perhaps it was more about them wanting to be seen as being tough on sex crimes than anything else? Such a convoluted and unnecessary plan to get him to the US doesn't seem rational when they could just apply to extradite him from here. Why give yourself a further level of complication when it's totally unnecessary? Scandinavia has the clean, green image of integrity whereas anyone having lived there for years achieves a glimpse of what actually goes on in justice, finance, business, social services etc. It's not pretty!
Roofies are very common and popular in Norway.
Lord Marylebone said:
Straight to Guantanamo?Lord Marylebone said:
Couldn't happen to a nicer guySnoggledog said:
Lord Marylebone said:
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