Calling someone "Fatty" could become a hatecrime.

[otolith]

BliarOut said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

And why do you imagine they over-consume those items?

Never considered it, too busy laughing at them....

A sophisticated sense of humour you have there. I saw someone fall over once, you'd have loved it.

[otolith]

swerni said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

And why do you imagine they over-consume those items?

Cause they taste nice and they're too lazy to cook for themselves?

Not saying it's a fact, just throwing the idea out there.

We all have a choice, they make the wrong one. The solution to their problem is what is in their heads, not what is in their bellies.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

swerni said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

And why do you imagine they over-consume those items?

Cause they taste nice and they're too lazy to cook for themselves?

Not saying it's a fact, just throwing the idea out there.

We all have a choice, they make the wrong one. The solution to their problem is what is in their heads, not what is in their bellies.

Err, I've never had a thought make me fat...

if it matters, eat less. My generation provides a service, we help keep people thin. Are you a chubby chaser by any chance?

[otolith]

No, I'm just not a callous tt.

[BliarOut]

I am.... Are you fat? I bet you are, aren't you.

Would Sir like a wafer-thin mint?

[10 Pence Short]

I don't think fat people deserve the same protection from the law as those who are born into a race, sex, sexuality or follow a particular religion.

If there were a state cost of dealing with overweight people, I think it should be in funded or part funded exercise sessions for people beyond a certain BMI. What it costs directly we should gain indirectly in less NHS resources being devoured by chubby related ailments.

[otolith]

Not really, no. I put about three stone on in my early thirties when I quit smoking and struggled to shift it. I've got rid of it over the last year, through diet and exercise. At twelve and a half stone, I could probably do with losing another stone or so, but I'm not really a porker.

I'm still wavering about whether you are trolling or really do have such a lack of empathy for others, though. Could be that you're on the autistic spectrum, could be that you have some kind of personality disorder, could be that you're just a bit of a dick.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

Not really, no. I put about three stone on in my early thirties when I quit smoking and struggled to shift it. I've got rid of it over the last year, through diet and exercise. At twelve and a half stone, I could probably do with losing another stone or so, but I'm not really a porker.

I'm still wavering about whether you are trolling or really do have such a lack of empathy for others, though. Could be that you're on the autistic spectrum, could be that you have some kind of personality disorder, could be that you're just a bit of a dick.

I do hope you're not about to insult a random stranger because they may or may not have a personality disorder. You want to be careful with that petard, you'll have some fkers eye out.

FTR, my generation thought Joey Deacon was fair game...

[otolith]

BliarOut said:

FTR, my generation thought Joey Deacon was fair game...

So did mine. Then we grew up.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

FTR, my generation thought Joey Deacon was fair game...

So did mine. Then we grew up.

So you took the piss out of spakkers and now you want to have a go at me just because I think fatties are fair game? Shame on you.

[roachcoach]

10 Pence Short said:

I don't think fat people deserve the same protection from the law as those who are born into a race, sex, sexuality or follow a particular religion.

If there were a state cost of dealing with overweight people, I think it should be in funded or part funded exercise sessions for people beyond a certain BMI. What it costs directly we should gain indirectly in less NHS resources being devoured by chubby related ailments.

BMI is useless, it needs to be body fat %age. And one for men, one for women at that.

[otolith]

roachcoach said:

BMI is useless, it needs to be body fat %age. And one for men, one for women at that.

I wouldn't go so far as to say useless, given that BMI and % body fat are closely correlated. Needs to be used advisedly in the case of people with abnormally high muscle mass, but not a bad measure for basic screening.

[roachcoach]

Yeah but if you're that far anyway (screening), it doesnt take long to get a body fat number either.

[standards]

As a colleague of mine observed during a conversation about whether you call call someone fat "It's not as if they can't do something about it."

Seems an important point to me-it's unfair to have a go at soemthing you can't control but being overweight is simply energy in-energy out imbalance.

[otolith]

roachcoach said:

Yeah but if you're that far anyway (screening), it doesnt take long to get a body fat number either.

True - but it should be pretty obvious just looking at someone whether they have a BMI of 35 because they are massively muscular or because they are fat. I think there are a lot of people kidding themselves about their BMI and how "powerfully built" they are, if you know what I mean.

[Digga]

otolith said:

I wouldn't go so far as to say useless, given that BMI and % body fat are closely correlated.

BMI is an exceptinoally broad brush.

A superb example is myself and a colleague. He's the same height as me, but about 10kgs lighter - so who's fitter? Well if it's measured by bench press, then him, by a ridiculously high margin, but if it's stamina related - running or cycling - I'd win hands-down. No idea.

To look at us, you'd swear [i[he[/i] had to be heavier, not because he's fat - if anything I look marginally 'lardier' - but just bigger.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

roachcoach said:

Yeah but if you're that far anyway (screening), it doesnt take long to get a body fat number either.

True - but it should be pretty obvious just looking at someone whether they have a BMI of 35 because they are massively muscular or because they are fat. I think there are a lot of people kidding themselves about their BMI and how "powerfully built" they are, if you know what I mean.

So they're, like, fatties?

[otolith]

Digga said:

otolith said:

I wouldn't go so far as to say useless, given that BMI and % body fat are closely correlated.

BMI is an exceptinoally broad brush.

A superb example is myself and a colleague. He's the same height as me, but about 10kgs lighter - so who's fitter? Well if it's measured by bench press, then him, by a ridiculously high margin, but if it's stamina related - running or cycling - I'd win hands-down. No idea.

To look at us, you'd swear [i[he[/i] had to be heavier, not because he's fat - if anything I look marginally 'lardier' - but just bigger.

Are either of you at a BMI where your GP should be considering referring you for any kind of help?

[Digga]

otolith said:

Digga said:

otolith said:

I wouldn't go so far as to say useless, given that BMI and % body fat are closely correlated.

BMI is an exceptinoally broad brush.

A superb example is myself and a colleague. He's the same height as me, but about 10kgs lighter - so who's fitter? Well if it's measured by bench press, then him, by a ridiculously high margin, but if it's stamina related - running or cycling - I'd win hands-down. No idea.

To look at us, you'd swear [i[he[/i] had to be heavier, not because he's fat - if anything I look marginally 'lardier' - but just bigger.

Are either of you at a BMI where your GP should be considering referring you for any kind of help?

If he could provide creatin on NHS prescription perhaps.

[Digga]

swerni said:

BliarOut said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

FTR, my generation thought Joey Deacon was fair game...

So did mine. Then we grew up.

So you took the piss out of spakkers and now you want to have a go at me just because I think fatties are fair game? Shame on you.

how about fat spakkers?

Stop it!

Someone will try to post that "I can count to potato" picture and then teh hwole thread will be locked.