Calling someone "Fatty" could become a hatecrime.

[Bibbs]

roachcoach said:

Big boned is a favourite of mine too, I've not seen a fat skeleton yet

Like this?

[roachcoach]

Bibbs said:

roachcoach said:

Big boned is a favourite of mine too, I've not seen a fat skeleton yet

Like this?


<snip>

Bravo Sir, bravo.

[Halb]

emicen said:

When I was at school, bullying fat kids was fine and there were few of them.

Now it is not ok to bully fat kids and we have a lot of them.

QED imho.

"which was to be demonstrated"?
What are you saying, that the reason we have more fat kids is that they don't get bullied enough?

[Digga]

Halb said:

emicen said:

When I was at school, bullying fat kids was fine and there were few of them.

Now it is not ok to bully fat kids and we have a lot of them.

QED imho.

"which was to be demonstrated"?
What are you saying, that the reason we have more fat kids is that they don't get bullied enough?

Running away from bullies keeps kids fit. Seems a reasonable hypothesis.

[Halb]

Digga said:

Halb said:

emicen said:

When I was at school, bullying fat kids was fine and there were few of them.

Now it is not ok to bully fat kids and we have a lot of them.

QED imho.

"which was to be demonstrated"?
What are you saying, that the reason we have more fat kids is that they don't get bullied enough?

Running away from bullies keeps kids fit. Seems a reasonable hypothesis.

I wonder if we could get Kelvin McKenzie to suggest it on QT?

[MorrisCRX]

At 6ft and 17st (and have been for 10 years +- .5st) my only comment can be who f'in cares.
I dont moan about smokers.
I dont moan about people that drink buckets of alcohol every week.

Chill.

[otolith]

emicen said:

When I was at school, bullying fat kids was fine and there were few of them.

Now it is not ok to bully fat kids and we have a lot of them.

I believe the situation is that it is not considered OK to bully anyone.

[Digga]

otolith said:

I believe the situation is that it is not considered OK to bully anyone.

Broadly, I'd agree, having given and received my fair share through school, I'd say it's best discouraged, but when the pendulum swings too far the meritoracy ceases to function. When kid's football match scores cannot be reported on if the goal difference is too great, when we 'gift' qualifications to all and sundry, WTF is the point?

Similarly, if someone's obese, they do actually need to know this, whether they or their parents like it. A bit of peer pressure can be a good thing.

[Hooli]

Einion Yrth said:

just me said:

Are they a minority?

They are less than 50% of the population.

By numbers or weight?

[otolith]

Digga said:

Broadly, I'd agree, having given and received my fair share through school, I'd say it's best discouraged, but when the pendulum swings too far the meritoracy ceases to function. When kid's football match scores cannot be reported on if the goal difference is too great, when we 'gift' qualifications to all and sundry, WTF is the point?

I agree entirely, but I don't see that kind of all-must-have-prizes nonsense as being related to the tolerance of bullying. If some kids don't like competitive sports, fine, find them some other form of exercise they do like rather than leaving them as cannon fodder to stoke the egos of the ones who do, but if they do choose to compete, some must lose.

Digga said:

Similarly, if someone's obese, they do actually need to know this, whether they or their parents like it. A bit of peer pressure can be a good thing.

I don't know, but I would imagine fat kids are probably pretty acutely aware of the fact.

[roachcoach]

otolith said:

I don't know, but I would imagine fat kids are probably pretty acutely aware of the fact.

Agree.

However what I'm not so convinced of is if they are aware it is within their power to do something about it.

I'll be the first to admit, there are absolutely people with genuine disorders/genetic issues. But they are firmly in the minority, and I feel (though may be wrong) there's a hell of a lot of people out there telling themselves they are in this subset when they are nothing of the sort.

"I've got a gland problem!"
Bet the chippy is still on speed-dial though eh?

[otolith]

roachcoach said:

Agree.

However what I'm not so convinced of is if they are aware it is within their power to do something about it.

Quite possibly part of the problem, although where children are concerned the power is in large part in the hands of the parents.

I'm reminded of that enormous teenager who was in the news recently, the one who previously lost some weight at a fat camp but was welcomed home with fish and chips because her mother couldn't be arsed to sort out some healthy food.

[BliarOut]

Digga said:

Halb said:

emicen said:

When I was at school, bullying fat kids was fine and there were few of them.

Now it is not ok to bully fat kids and we have a lot of them.

QED imho.

"which was to be demonstrated"?
What are you saying, that the reason we have more fat kids is that they don't get bullied enough?

Running away from bullies keeps kids fit. Seems a reasonable hypothesis.

Don't forget the motivational power of a bit of social stigma.

You certainly didn't get many 'big boned' people in Belsen...

[otolith]

BliarOut said:

Don't forget the motivational power of a bit of social stigma.

Don't forget the demotivational power of loss of self esteem, depression and hopelessness.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Don't forget the motivational power of a bit of social stigma.

Don't forget the demotivational power of loss of self esteem, depression and hopelessness.

So move more and eat less... It's not water retention, it's pie retention.

[otolith]

BliarOut said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Don't forget the motivational power of a bit of social stigma.

Don't forget the demotivational power of loss of self esteem, depression and hopelessness.

So move more and eat less... It's not water retention, it's pie retention.

Yes, the physics of it are very simple and undeniable. Expend more calories than you consume and you will lose weight.

Unfortunately, the problem with fat people isn't physics, it's psychology.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Don't forget the motivational power of a bit of social stigma.

Don't forget the demotivational power of loss of self esteem, depression and hopelessness.

So move more and eat less... It's not water retention, it's pie retention.

Yes, the physics of it are very simple and undeniable. Expend more calories than you consume and you will lose weight.

Unfortunately, the problem with fat people isn't physics, it's psychology.

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

[otolith]

BliarOut said:

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

And why do you imagine they over-consume those items?

[Digga]

otolith said:

If some kids don't like competitive sports, fine, find them some other form of exercise they do like rather than leaving them as cannon fodder to stoke the egos of the ones who do, but if they do choose to compete, some must lose.

Sporting interest and ability came very late for me, to the extent that I never once represented my school in anything, despite (occasionally) playing rugby for the town. I cannot say that my early sporting experience was entirely negative - I had to accept I was (at the time) fairly puny and very st at football and get on with the rest of my life. Defeat teaches as many if not more lessons than victory, enculcates a more realistic ego and teaches admiration for kids who perhaps had no other means to excel.

[BliarOut]

otolith said:

BliarOut said:

Nope, it's chips and pies and pizza and coke and cake ...

And why do you imagine they over-consume those items?

Never considered it, too busy laughing at them....