Gipsy family made £2m and dodged £500,000 tax

[Ayahuasca]

and stereotypical cliches either.

[Smiler.]

Halb said:

That is most amusing.
Perhaps explains it?
http://mginternet.hackney.gov.uk/mgMemberIndex.asp...

Fook me.

As outsiders, I wonder what they make of the human race?

[TheDiplomat]

If I had a dog as ugly as one of those councillors, I'd shave its arse and teach it to walk backwards.

[Lost_BMW]

Derek Smith said:

Lost_BMW said:

What's the collective noun for a group of Labour councillors?

I offer, " a ruination"

or, a "futility"

or just plain, ordinary "fkwits".

You should read Private Eye's Rotten Boroughs pages. You'll soon learn to leave out labour in such condemnation. Corruption goes on regardless of political affiliations.

Keep sharp impliments safely locked away.

It was a joke! Doh...

... nothing like taking things too seriously.

But since we now have, it wasn't corruption I was referring to either, more the use of political office and tax payers money to waste time with pathetic attempts at fiddly flimsies of social engineering.




Mind you, I still despise the lefty, politically correct handwringing do-gooders responsible for ste like this! Lest anyone accuse me of mellowing.

[vonuber]

Lost_BMW said:

But since we now have, it wasn't corruption I was referring to either, more the use of political office and tax payers money to waste time with pathetic attempts at fiddly flimsies of social engineering.

Like.. Mr Hunt and BSB? using a politicla office and tax payers money to get his best mate to exert more control over the media do some social engineering?
Everyone is at it.

Actually, why is PH so silent on Mr Hunt?

[Lost_BMW]

vonuber said:

Like.. Mr Hunt and BSB? using a politicla office and tax payers money to get his best mate to exert more control over the media do some social engineering?
Everyone is at it.

Actually, why is PH so silent on Mr Hunt?

You are Tom Watson aicmp.

Oh, and there's still no evidence to show he did what you claim. Fail times two.

Edited by Lost_BMW on Saturday 2nd June 18:55

[odyssey2200]

Derek Smith said:

Fort Jefferson said:

How much tax was it Vodafone dodged, was it £6 billion?

When gypsies dodge tax = bad. Very bad.

Vodaphone, or other big company, 'negotiates' with IR and the government and doesn't pay taxes = good. Very good. In fact avoiding all this tax liability, although at great cost given they had to chat with Cameron (perhaps even Christmas dinner?) brings £millions into the country. It's been said often enough on these pages.

You must keep up.

When Vodaphone arrived they didn't camp on land that wasn't theirs, st all over the place and then fk off leaving everyone else to pay for the clean up.

They didn't bring their own crime wave with them.
They contributed to the community, employed people, who payed Tax and then spent the rest including 20% VAT (+ Fuel Duty, Insurance premium Tax, Road Fund etc)

And they DID pay some TAX.
Yes that may have exploited a loophole, but who here, honestly would not have done the same.
In fact you could argue, if you were a share holder that if Vodaphone had paid more tax than was absolutely necessary that the management was incompetent.

By comparison the stwhereyoulikes bring nothing but crime, sewerage Dags and cost.

but of course it's far more "right on" to have a pop at the greedy corporates than the poor, oppressed Traveller

[Engineer1]

odyssey2200 said:

but of course it's far more "right on" to have a pop at the greedy corporates than the poor, oppressed Traveller

Poor?? and why do they rock up and park opposite police stations? I've seen them opposite Edgbaston police station, and opposite Brownhills Police station. That takes some balls or makes it easier to get people back from the cells

[johnfm]

Fort Jefferson said:

How much tax was it Vodafone dodged, was it £6 billion?

Idiot sale================================>

[Guybrush]

Fort Jefferson said:

How much tax was it Vodafone dodged, was it £6 billion?

Vodafone employes a lot of people, enabling them to have a life and pay tax, contributing to the economy. I doubt very much the 'other lot' of parasites contribute much to humanity.

[vonuber]

Lost_BMW said:

You are Tom Watson aicmp.

Oh, and there's still no evidence to show he did what you claim. Fail times two.

Edited by Lost_BMW on Saturday 2nd June 18:55

You are David Cameron AICMFP.

[Lost_BMW]

vonuber said:

You are David Cameron AICMFP.

For shame! Way, way too left wing for me. I'll give a clue, Alan Clarke's diaries are my favourite non-fiction books ever and he my favourite politician.

[skinley]

Engineer1 said:

why do they rock up and park opposite police stations?

They are inhaling crack cocaine outside police stations?

[Hackney]

muffinmenace said:

I think we should treat the Gipsy's the same as Vodafone, if the Gipsy's threaten to leave the UK for a Tax Haven then it will be a great loss to the treasury and society as a whole

The gypsy's what?

[martin84]

How dare these people dodge tax?! They're not allowed to do that! They dont even own a bank which is the minimum requirement for being allowed to dodge tax!

Puggit said:

Fort Jefferson said:

How much tax was it Vodafone dodged, was it £6 billion?

Legally

Oh thats ok then. Its not like we needed that £6billion.

[skinley]

martin84 said:

Oh thats ok then. Its not like we needed that £6billion.

Or a legal system

[Murph7355]

Lost_BMW said:

Sitting there in meetings thinking up their oh so necessary plans on all sorts from Roma week to 'persuade your child to cycle to school through rain, hail and juggernaut to save some carbons' whilst working out which new revolutionary they should rename streets for.

Paid for by the local tax payers no doubt, to 'represent' and work for them...

"I don't believe it!"

Thing is, it's the local tax payers who voted them in. So who are the gonks?

You get what you pay for and vote for.

[Murph7355]

martin84 said:

Oh thats ok then. Its not like we needed that £6billion.

Of course it is. Foolish statement.

Or do you routinely hand over large chunks of your own cash to the govt that you are not obliged to because it's "needed".

[martin84]

Murph7355 said:

Of course it is. Foolish statement.

Or do you routinely hand over large chunks of your own cash to the govt that you are not obliged to because it's "needed".

I dont go out of my way to avoid tax. My main problem with the system is the big boys can get away with murder by having a cosey chat with the HMRC chief and paying for tea with CMD, but the self employed gardener who does the Government out of £50 due to a spot of 'over estimating purchasing' soon gets the full wrath of the powers that be. HMRC are afraid of big business, so they pick on the smaller kid in the playground. 'Oh no they might leave the UK if we make them actually pay some tax'

According to PH if you pay some tax and employ people its fine to skirt round the law and not pay all of what you owe. So long as you do some of what you should its fine if you don't do all of it

The difference between you frothing right wing nutjobs and a limp wristed lefty liberal like myself is I can look beyond 'its legal = marvellous' and decide for myself whether it should be allowed or not. If you have to go out of your way to avoid tax then its tax you were meant to pay. End of.

[johnfm]

martin84 said:

How dare these people dodge tax?! They're not allowed to do that! They dont even own a bank which is the minimum requirement for being allowed to dodge tax!

Puggit said:

Fort Jefferson said:

How much tax was it Vodafone dodged, was it £6 billion?

Legally

Oh thats ok then. Its not like we needed that £6billion.

We 'need' hundreds of billions (thanks Gordon).

Doesn't give the government a right to tax that isn't due to them.