Rain Stops....... Post!!!

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iphonedyou

9,262 posts

158 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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doogz said:
Postmen carry 120kg of mail at a time? Impressive.
There wasn't really much room for misunderstanding Martin's post, in fairness.

coanda

2,644 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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egor110 said:
coanda said:
It seems that just delivering the post is no longer a priority.
Why because it's delivered later in the day?

The post in this country is the 2nd cheapest in europe and the only one that collects and delivers 6 days a week.
In the late 90's we used to deliver our last letter by 9.30am however this cost more as you had more people on nights so by making the deliverys go out later you have less people on nights which saves money.

You ask 100 posties and 99 would prefer to work 5-12 rather than 7-3 like now, however things are changing rapidly and we either start later or leave.

Re your daughter delivering newspapers crawling across snow on her hands and knees, i think it's shameful that you her parent and the newsagents she works for allowed that to happen. If she was over 16 she'd be covered by health and safety regs, but paperboy/girls seem to have no rules how heavy the bags are, how bad the conditions are.

Snow is going to be worse later on in the day because people/traffic have been over it and compacted it, so it's even more slippery.
That was a comment based on the original post and Martins post - i.e. there is no particular requirement to get post through the door ASAP according to Martin - but the story in the OP takes it a step further by not delivering at all in fairly common conditions which the average person seems to get through. Its more bullst HSE brought about by someone who seems not to have mastered the art of standing on two feet. Something I've long respected and appreciated postmen for - delivering near as dammit in any weather. I hope it doesn't go away because a few people don't think about what they are about to do and how they are going to do it, and so have to be saved from themselves by HSE.




coanda

2,644 posts

191 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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martin84 said:
coanda said:
It seems that just delivering the post is no longer a priority.
Says the person who presumably doesn't carry 8 15kg bags full of mail every day on multiple hour walks for £8 an hour.
I can't decide what I should reply with here. I'm just going to go for:

meh....

speedchick

5,181 posts

223 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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egor110 said:
Re your daughter delivering newspapers crawling across snow on her hands and knees, i think it's shameful that you her parent and the newsagents she works for allowed that to happen. If she was over 16 she'd be covered by health and safety regs, but paperboy/girls seem to have no rules how heavy the bags are, how bad the conditions are.

Snow is going to be worse later on in the day because people/traffic have been over it and compacted it, so it's even more slippery.
It wasn't snow, it was the frozen water from a burst pipe. We didn't know she had done it till she came home and told us afterwards, both myself and the shop owner told her not to take any risks, she's one of those hardworking kids that didn't want to let anyone down, so she just got on and did the job, unlike the postie, who had decided that 10mm of snow was too dangerous to work in.... around this area we have a hell of a lot of elderly people, none of who were able to get into town to pick their post up from the depot. When I went in the depot, the postie there was actually surprised to hear that we hadn't had a postal delivery on that round in a week, so heaven knows what was going on.

egor110

16,910 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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speedchick said:
It wasn't snow, it was the frozen water from a burst pipe. We didn't know she had done it till she came home and told us afterwards, both myself and the shop owner told her not to take any risks, she's one of those hardworking kids that didn't want to let anyone down, so she just got on and did the job, unlike the postie, who had decided that 10mm of snow was too dangerous to work in.... around this area we have a hell of a lot of elderly people, none of who were able to get into town to pick their post up from the depot. When I went in the depot, the postie there was actually surprised to hear that we hadn't had a postal delivery on that round in a week, so heaven knows what was going on.
Have you actually spoken to your postie and asked why they didn't deliver?
Thought not, far easier to slag him/her off on the net than in real life.

I have no idea where you are but down here in the south west when we've had snow we've been told by our managers not to take any vans or bikes out, and only deliver within a mile of the office and if we ignored that took a van out and hit something we would be totally to blame as we were instructed not to and on another occasion we were sent home.

speedchick

5,181 posts

223 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Yep, I spoke to him, after the thaw, he said that he didn't want to be out in the snow and ice. Thing was, for the four/five days he didn't deliver (and we had no foot post), the vans were still doing their bit, and on after a while, we had another two posties doing the round trying to clear the backlog, this was after more snow and more freezing of the snow.

egor110

16,910 posts

204 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Oh well i guess different areas are managed differently.
Like i said once we were sent home after sorting the mail in but the deal was we then cleared it and didn't claim over time and the other time we walked but only within a mile of our office and took a trolley (which was a stupid idea) and worked to our time.
Down here we've had posties conducted for crashing a van or getting a van stuck in the snow so once the managers do that then nobody bothers once were told not to.
To many young managers with no actual work experience are really messing this company up, the best managers we've had are ex services people with experience not just experience from a classroom or reading books.

Dixie68

3,091 posts

188 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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egor110 said:
In the late 90's we used to deliver our last letter by 9.30am however this cost more as you had more people on nights so by making the deliverys go out later you have less people on nights which saves money.
It doesn't save the customer money, the cost of sending a letter has been increasing steadily. It must be saving someone else money.

GarryA

4,700 posts

165 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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I'll be there today, and its pissing it down. Will take some pics.

greygoose

8,282 posts

196 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Dixie68 said:
egor110 said:
In the late 90's we used to deliver our last letter by 9.30am however this cost more as you had more people on nights so by making the deliverys go out later you have less people on nights which saves money.
It doesn't save the customer money, the cost of sending a letter has been increasing steadily. It must be saving someone else money.
The operating profit for the Royal Mail was £177 million for the first half of the financial year according to the Telegraph, the customer doesn't matter at all.

.:ian:.

1,947 posts

204 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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pingu393 said:
What's happened to the Men In Shorts? A bit of rain and now they wimp out. This guy should be kicked out of the Postie's Union for seriously letting the side down.

BTW, our postie was in shorts today.
Winter before last when it was about -8 I saw our postie wandering about with shorts on, lunatic..

DonkeyApple

55,521 posts

170 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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In fairness to the postie, if this mossy path is on private land then the owners should have some respect and clean it. Likewise if council.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Similar experience of Posties here as well.
When it snowed last year and the year before that we had a total of 3 1/2 weeks where no post was delivered.

Somewhat strangely now, we never seem to get post when its really rainy, but the following dry days we seem to get a lot more post than normal scratchchin

Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

239 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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joe_90 said:
Thats sounds crazy, why would you want to do that wink
It's better than walking the streets!

DeadMeat_UK

3,058 posts

283 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
Pesty said:
Ive just started drinking cocktails frown
Absolute disgrace. wink

You can't tell the difference between Yorkshire and Essex nowadays.

I bet the postie slipped on some hair gel or a tube of tanning product.

It saddens me to head north to the cultural centre of the English Man, the home of the brave and see the streets littered with coiffured, creosoted, mincing poofs sipping cocktails and claiming to have loads of money instead of denying ever seeing more than a £1 coin while sleeping on a mattress of £50 notes. smile

It brings a year to the eye.
Oi fk off mate. I'm from Essex, I'm not having that!!! Don't want to be aligned with t'those miserable, stuck in a timewarp, miserable, grumpy, t'can't't t'talk proper like northern fkers that are miserable, and hate their neighbouring county even though they are EXACTLY THE SAME as they are, thank you very much.

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Edited by DeadMeat_UK on Friday 15th June 12:17

Steameh

3,155 posts

211 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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South Parade, possibly one of the most travelled routes in to the town centre, busy with both car and foot traffic regularly.

What a load of tosh.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Steameh said:
South Parade, possibly one of the most travelled routes in to the town centre, busy with both car and foot traffic regularly.

What a load of tosh.
Careful its a death trap. Look at that crisp packet! that's a broken leg right there waiting to happen.

Those drain covers look pretty nasty and its dry. Christ can you imagine in the wet?

Hush your mouth people they are risking their lives!!! shoulders just don't grow on trees you know.



egor110

16,910 posts

204 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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greygoose said:
The operating profit for the Royal Mail was £177 million for the first half of the financial year according to the Telegraph, the customer doesn't matter at all.
Your right, the masterplan now is to see how few posties you can have delivering and balls to the customers.
5 day deliverys will be on the cards next because nobody is interested in buying R/M when we have to deliver and collect everywhere 6 days a week.

egor110

16,910 posts

204 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Dixie68 said:
It doesn't save the customer money, the cost of sending a letter has been increasing steadily. It must be saving someone else money.
Yes it's gone up but it's still cheap, 60p to send a letter from one end of the country to the other, on top of that were still 2nd cheapest in europe.