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johnfm
Original Poster
9,109 posts
120 months
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hornetrider
41,171 posts
75 months
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mybrainhurts
71,777 posts
125 months
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johnfm said: District Judge Hittner  Don't tell him, Pike...
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Otispunkmeyer
2,912 posts
25 months
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Ouch indeed, what did madhoff get for his scheme?
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FourWheelDrift
56,877 posts
154 months
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wormburner
6,427 posts
123 months
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Monty Zoomer
870 posts
27 months
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Otispunkmeyer said: Ouch indeed, what did madhoff get for his scheme? There's a clue in the article: "Bernie Madoff was given 150 years in 2009"
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Ozzie Osmond
12,419 posts
116 months
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"US authorities had sought a 230 year sentence....."
I doubt he feels he got of lightly at 150.
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Welshbeef
13,180 posts
68 months
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Plus being America the sentence is the sentence you do the entire term without parole.... So this chap will die in jail for his crimes ruining so many people's lives.
That said killing someone gets 30years... Rape 5 years armed robbery 15 years GBH 8 years. To steal (a lot ) of money he gets 150 years. Now I struggle to square the circle those crimes which harm the victims in a physical way vs losing all your cash isn't right. The balance of the sentence should be much harsher for physical harm crime to a victim and less for say this sort of theft.
One thing though he is guilty without doubt why not give him the death penalty as he is costing the state a huge cost no need for it
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fido
9,490 posts
125 months
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Welshbeef said: Now I struggle to square the circle those crimes which harm the victims in a physical way vs losing all your cash isn't right. The balance of the sentence should be much harsher for physical harm crime to a victim and less for say this sort of theft. To put it into perspective, stealing someone's life savings will have a very detrimental effect (both physical and mental) on an individual. Just watch any of those cowboy-builder programmes to see how terrible it can be. Multiply that over the number of victims and the length of punishment begins to make more sense. I was chatting to a retired policeman who dealt with this sort of crime, and he sort of convinced me that this white-collar crime deserved hefty punishments - though previously i felt the same way as you did.
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KrazyIvan
2,520 posts
45 months
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Yeah but I bet the b  d only serves half of it...... 
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Gargamel
5,547 posts
131 months
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FourWheelDrift said: Howzat! Very good - I wonder if Collingwood's wife will continue to sit upon his knee now that he is banged up ?
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CommanderJameson
21,021 posts
96 months
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Welshbeef said: Plus being America the sentence is the sentence you do the entire term without parole.... So this chap will die in jail for his crimes ruining so many people's lives.
That said killing someone gets 30years... Rape 5 years armed robbery 15 years GBH 8 years. To steal (a lot ) of money he gets 150 years. Now I struggle to square the circle those crimes which harm the victims in a physical way vs losing all your cash isn't right. The balance of the sentence should be much harsher for physical harm crime to a victim and less for say this sort of theft.
One thing though he is guilty without doubt why not give him the death penalty as he is costing the state a huge cost no need for it Parole exists in the US prison system. Perhaps he'll get a third off his sentence for good behaviour.
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Ari
7,262 posts
85 months
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fido said: To put it into perspective, stealing someone's life savings will have a very detrimental effect (both physical and mental) on an individual. Just watch any of those cowboy-builder programmes to see how terrible it can be. Multiply that over the number of victims and the length of punishment begins to make more sense. I was chatting to a retired policeman who dealt with this sort of crime, and he sort of convinced me that this white-collar crime deserved hefty punishments - though previously i felt the same way as you did. No doubt. But worse than being murdered..?
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fido
9,490 posts
125 months
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Ari said: No doubt. But worse than being murdered..? Well i suppose the comparison would be if he murdered the same number of people, and one imagines that would be a pretty hefty punishment. Also my point was aimed at people who think "ah, it's only money .. no one got hurt".
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BoRED S2upid
9,487 posts
110 months
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150 years ha thats nothing compared to what Brevick will get how many people did he kill 30 years each...
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Blackpuddin
4,905 posts
75 months
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Stanford's briefs had asked for a three to four year sentence  Perhaps the judge will oblige them if they would care to step into the dock.
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Ozzie Osmond
12,419 posts
116 months
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Ari said: No doubt. But worse than being murdered..? One fraud = less offensive than one murder. But unless you say 100 murders are no more offensive than one murder then a "scale" comes into play. This bloke scammed thousands of people so lets say he gets a one month sentence for each crime. It's starting to sound fair already. None of the UK nonsense where a lad is up for sentencing the first time he gets caught nicking and then asks for 20 other offences to be taken into account, increasing the overall sentence by little or nothing.
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rohrl
3,938 posts
15 months
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Good. Thieving b d. These massive sentences always make me think of a prison cell with a dusty skeleton on the bed surrounded with cobwebs.
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Alfa numeric
2,414 posts
49 months
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Welshbeef said: Plus being America the sentence is the sentence you do the entire term without parole.... That can't be right can it? If it were true then Howard Marks would still be inside.
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