Benefits for striking low-paid workers to be axed
Discussion
turbobloke said:
That's a reasonable question to ask, as long as you define 'living wage' and can accurately cost the total impact of forcing it onto all employers regardless of everything else.
So, what's a 'living wage' and what would be the net cost of forcing it onto all employers?
Well if the tax credits bumps it up to a living wage then we already know the cost. Either we make the employers pay it or the Government pays it. If companies profits are entirely dependent on paying their workers less than they need to live and relying on the Government to make up the difference then its clear we have a problem.So, what's a 'living wage' and what would be the net cost of forcing it onto all employers?
As for the story itself, its another example of a useless Government trying to mend a broken nuclear reactor with a cotton ball. They'll make headlines out of this and damage their popularity even further and for what? Does the Government lost billions every year in tax credits given to striking low paid workers? I seriously doubt it. Its been hilarious watching them run round trying to fix the big problems with a bit of tax on pasties and caravans. They'll never learn.
the "living wage" is only so HIGH becuase of our massive tax burden where our government spends 47p in every pound we earn.
Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
PugwasHDJ80 said:
the "living wage" is only so HIGH becuase of our massive tax burden where our government spends 47p in every pound we earn.
Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
What is my way?Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
martin84 said:
PugwasHDJ80 said:
the "living wage" is only so HIGH becuase of our massive tax burden where our government spends 47p in every pound we earn.
Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
What is my way?Just imagine how much easier everything would be if the government took 10p in the pound- suddenly 13k would be easy to live on, prices for everything would drop off as companies paid less tax, more people would be empmloyed (as there would be more money being spent by the population), ergo less poverty.
or we can do it your way........
colonel c said:
davepoth said:
It's not about the money.
On the assumption that quite a lot of them are working to supplement the main household income it's a safe bet that they need the money; so this is going to make them think quite a bit harder before striking...
Correct me if I'm wrong but if someone was working to supplement the main household income they would not be claiming tax credit.On the assumption that quite a lot of them are working to supplement the main household income it's a safe bet that they need the money; so this is going to make them think quite a bit harder before striking...
http://www.familynest.co.uk/tools/Tax-credits-bene...
martin84 said:
I didn't. Why should I?
You didn't say it, but every single one of your posts that i've replied to in the last 48 hours have been in relation to you comenting that people aren't paid enough and can't live, companies are evil and exploit their workforce and the government doesn't help. You main thrust seems to be that more money should be given to those that don't work, and it should be taken from those who have worked hard to be succesful. In relation to your second sentence you should define your position if what i have said above ISN'T what you actually think, as its clear that a number of PHers would agree with my assessment of your thoughts.
If you don't refute the first paragraph then people will quite reasonably presume that it represents your position.
Mojocvh said:
turbobloke said:
Or, replying in kind - which sounds less naughty, is more accurate, and no less valid.
Bulls
t turbo pure bs."Where did I say that?" (device #1)
"Where did you deny it?" (similar device #2)
Like for like. The reply following mine set out the basis more fully.
Also, are you and martin84 ganging up on folk
Mojocvh said:
Bullst turbo pure bs.
Don't get what your saying Mojo t turbo pure bs.i don't actually know anyone on PH, so my thoughts are purely MY thoughts. if you think Martin84 is being picked on i suggest you go and look at his other posts- he's quite capable of looking after himself. Any perceived "group" response that you are seeing is because a lot of people have a large problem with his viewpoint. Its usually those of use who pay a lot of tax or who are self employed (or both if you are really lucky!)
Mojocvh said:
Ah the old ph gang up. 
Just thinking that myself, some lightweights in need of a group hug re-assurance. Zero substantial comment makes it even worse. This Government is rapidly running out of steam, worrisome at only a couple of years in and so much to fix. Headline grabbing on relatively minor issues in a feeble attempt disguising serious inadequacies. And the Party I support is part of this Government, plain embarrassing.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff