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nutcase
Original Poster
1,020 posts
121 months
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Can't someone just put him back in his box properly this time. If he wanted to be a politician, then he should have f  king well pursued that career. Isn't he supposed to be unbiased in his political stance (sort of like The Queen?), when he is so clearly lefty. What a twunt. Edited to add (latest example) http://www.metro.co.uk/news/903053-archbishop-of-c...
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TankRizzo
2,192 posts
62 months
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Oh, he's got a book to sell. How predictable.
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Randy Winkman
1,990 posts
58 months
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nutcase said: Can't someone just put him back in his box properly this time. If he wanted to be a politician, then he should have f king well pursued that career. Isn't he supposed to be unbiased in his political stance (sort of like The Queen?), when he is so clearly lefty. What a twunt. Edited to add (latest example) http://www.metro.co.uk/news/903053-archbishop-of-c... He's right though.
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bigbubba
838 posts
88 months
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I can't value the opinion of someone who believes and preaches about a higher being.
Religion belongs in the dark ages, not in the 21st century.
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nutcase
Original Poster
1,020 posts
121 months
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Randy Winkman said: He's right though. Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in.
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Countdown
6,378 posts
65 months
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nutcase said: Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in. You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control?
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Derek Smith
16,058 posts
117 months
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Religion is politics. From the time when Constantine invented christianity it has always been about politics. Perh aps not quite so much nowdays, but a fine example of it was Eire. The church, to a great extent, ran the country.
Politics/religion is rather like space/time.
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otolith
19,408 posts
73 months
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toppstuff
8,388 posts
116 months
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Countdown said: nutcase said: Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in. You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control? Yes, but the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice. The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives. The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility.
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odyssey2200
17,500 posts
78 months
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otolith said: "Who will rid me..." Exactly what I was thinking when I heaard this on the news As someone who gets paid a huge amount of money to live in the lap of luxury he should STFU about things he has no understanding or experiance of and no responsibility for.
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Countdown
6,378 posts
65 months
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toppstuff said: Countdown said: nutcase said: Disagree. He, like many other people, seem to be deluded that it isn't their own responsibility to provide and look after themselves, to work hard and enjoy the rewards- rather, they sit back and expect to get everything on a plate from the State for free. The 'entitlement' attitude has to be eliminated for those who have contributed little or nothing. You should get out what you put in. You don't think that there's a middle ground made up of people who do want to contribute to society but can't do for reasons beyond their control? Yes, but the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice. The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives. The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility. And that's the point. It's a minority (despite what certain tabloid rags would have you believe). I'm all for cutting benefits to this section of the population but what some people seem to prefer to believe is that most people on benefits are workshy dolebludging scumbags. Archie Bish is quite right to speak up and credit on him for doing so.
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Ozzie Osmond
12,128 posts
115 months
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Derek Smith said: Religion is politics. Politics/religion is rather like space/time. Exactly. It took me a while to grasp that point but over the years I have become increasingly convinced that religion, politics and economics are all the same thing, or at least aspects of the same thing. Namely human nature. It is simply impossible to look at any one of them in isolation.
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Ozzie Osmond
12,128 posts
115 months
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toppstuff said: the balance is not right in this country. The truly disadvantaged should be helped, but Labour have created a culture where for a minority, benefit dependency is a lifestyle choice.
The religious beardy in the big hat makes a reasonable point, but there is nothing wrong with the concept of society, in that people SHOULD take more responsibility for their own lives.
The state should help those in need. But it is not the role of the state to replace aspiration, ambition and personal responsibility. ^^^^ Very good summary IMO.
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Use Psychology
9,799 posts
61 months
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bigbubba said: I can't value the opinion of someone who believes and preaches about a higher being.
Religion belongs in the dark ages, not in the 21st century. but holding (apparently) invalid opinions on some subjects doesn't disqualify you from having valid and perhaps very sensible opinions in other areas. for example, if you ask me something about football my opinion is basically irrelevant but if you ask me about other things then you'd find I have significant expertise and very valid and valuable opinions (in my opinion... there we go again... my opinion of myself is probably not valuable). so despite the fact that this man believes in god etc. etc. I find it possible that he may be able to talk sense.
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Some Gump
4,373 posts
55 months
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So, the bearded skirt wearing knacker is stirring again.
He's moaning about protecting the wak members of socieety, who can't protect themselves. What about the scores of small children his mated have bummed? Did the church make a stand for the disadvantaged, and excommunicate those responsible? No, they just kept it quiet and hoped it would go away.
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Eric Mc
67,261 posts
134 months
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Is he not allowed state his opinion?
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Use Psychology
9,799 posts
61 months
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not sure the archbishop of canterbury has much influence in the catholic church...
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CBR JGWRR
5,079 posts
18 months
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Some Gump said: So, the bearded skirt wearing knacker is stirring again.
He's moaning about protecting the wak members of socieety, who can't protect themselves. What about the scores of small children his mated have bummed? Did the church make a stand for the disadvantaged, and excommunicate those responsible? No, they just kept it quiet and hoped it would go away. 
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bigbubba
838 posts
88 months
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Use Psychology said: but holding (apparently) invalid opinions on some subjects doesn't disqualify you from having valid and perhaps very sensible opinions in other areas.
for example, if you ask me something about football my opinion is basically irrelevant But football isn't make believe..... Your opinion on other matters would not be any less valid because you don't like football. That would be because you are not a mentalist making football up. Religion on the other hand....
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Puggit
29,537 posts
117 months
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Can anyone think of someone right-wing with a beard?
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