Germany to ban religious genital mutilation?
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RT.com said:
A German court has ruled that parents can’t have their sons circumcised on religious grounds in a move which has angered Muslim and Jewish groups in the country.
The court in Cologne decided that a legal guardian’s authority over a child does not allow them to subject them to the procedure, which the court called minor bodily harm, reports The Financial Times Deutschland.
Neither does religious freedom, which is protected by law in Germany, give grounds for such decisions to be taken for the children, the ruling says.
The court was considering a case against a Muslim doctor, who performed circumcision on a four-year-old boy at his parents’ request. Two days after the procedure bleeding started, after which the boy had to be taken to hospital.
German authorities learned about the incident and launched a criminal investigation against the doctor. The initial court trial ruled that there was no violation of the law, but the prosecutor’s office took the case to the Cologne district court.
The decision sets a precedent, which may affect medical practice across the country.
The possible ban on circumcision provoked outrage among Jewish and Muslim organizations in Germany, where every year thousands of boys are circumcised in their early years at the request of parents. They regard the ban as a "serious interference in the right to freedom of religion." But none of the organizations so far has commented on the verdict, explaining they first need to study thoroughly the reasoning of the judges.
Some experts however don’t rule out that the right for religiously motivated circumcision will be considered by the Federal Constitutional Court.
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http://www.rt.com/news/germany-religious-circumcision-ban-772/The court in Cologne decided that a legal guardian’s authority over a child does not allow them to subject them to the procedure, which the court called minor bodily harm, reports The Financial Times Deutschland.
Neither does religious freedom, which is protected by law in Germany, give grounds for such decisions to be taken for the children, the ruling says.
The court was considering a case against a Muslim doctor, who performed circumcision on a four-year-old boy at his parents’ request. Two days after the procedure bleeding started, after which the boy had to be taken to hospital.
German authorities learned about the incident and launched a criminal investigation against the doctor. The initial court trial ruled that there was no violation of the law, but the prosecutor’s office took the case to the Cologne district court.
The decision sets a precedent, which may affect medical practice across the country.
The possible ban on circumcision provoked outrage among Jewish and Muslim organizations in Germany, where every year thousands of boys are circumcised in their early years at the request of parents. They regard the ban as a "serious interference in the right to freedom of religion." But none of the organizations so far has commented on the verdict, explaining they first need to study thoroughly the reasoning of the judges.
Some experts however don’t rule out that the right for religiously motivated circumcision will be considered by the Federal Constitutional Court.
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Starfighter said:
Cue recommendations from "tame" medical specialists that the same procedure is required on health grounds.
Only in certain cases. But in those cases it's done by a doctor, not a priest who read about how to do it on the internet.** I know that's slightly exaggerating.
Jimbeaux said:
I disagree; I believe it is healthier to be circumsized. I gurantee that most males in the U.S. are circumsized yet most US males are not Muslim or Jewish.
Can't argue with that, havnt seen any stats, but do you know anyone who suffered by not being circunsised? I havnt.
Jimbeaux said:
I disagree; I believe it is healthier to be circumsized. I gurantee that most males in the U.S. are circumsized yet most US males are not Muslim or Jewish.
There is that whole belief thing again. 
I think they do it in the US as a cultural thing from way back. It seems to be the norm. Oddly enough, if creation was so perfect, why do we need to chop off bits of genitalia, and wear eyeglasses?Vipers said:
What does circumsision have to do with religion, does someons religious book say circumcise boys?
well, in the catholic church they hide the men who like to interfere with young children.... seems like other eligions actually promote it....sits back and awaits the religious nutters to go mental...
Vipers said:
Jimbeaux said:
I disagree; I believe it is healthier to be circumsized. I gurantee that most males in the U.S. are circumsized yet most US males are not Muslim or Jewish.
Can't argue with that, havnt seen any stats, but do you know anyone who suffered by not being circunsised? I havnt.Jimbeaux said:
UF said:
Jimbeaux said:
I disagree; I believe it is healthier to be circumsized. I gurantee that most males in the U.S. are circumsized yet most US males are not Muslim or Jewish.
Isn't that the problem?
The problem as I see it is that your belief is resulting in the pain, and genital mutilation of an infant. Of you choose to do it when old, have at it.
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