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Are we just going to keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide)? A few immigrants and no one would have been bothered, but it has went way, way beyond that now.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001 (from the census). They have been allowing over half a million into our country every single year since then. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
Being outnumbered in your own country is something that happens when you lose a war, it is not something you deliberately choose. Under no circumstances whatsoever are we doing that.
We have to stop immigration, and also begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.
Meridius said:
This is planet Earth, you should be allowed to go wherever you like.
I don't want to go wherever I want as some areas on this Earth have people with different cultures and beliefs. Likewise, I don't want too many people moving from these areas to a place I am happy with and trying to enforce their cultures and beliefs on a society I am relatively happy with. However, there are good people in all areas on Earth so more control is required as oppose to just 'shutting the doors'. Immigration can be very good but over the past 10 years or so it has become a problem. Would you want to live in Saudi Arabia with your family? I wouldn't and I don't think I'm in the minority, therefore I wouldn't want them all moving here. Okay, my last point is very dramatic but you get my point. Too much change, too quickly is bad. A little bit of change over a longer time period is good.
McFsC said:
I don't want to go wherever I want as some areas on this Earth have people with different cultures and beliefs. Likewise, I don't want too many people moving from these areas to a place I am happy with and trying to enforce their cultures and beliefs on a society I am relatively happy with. However, there are good people in all areas on Earth so more control is required as oppose to just 'shutting the doors'. Immigration can be very good but over the past 10 years or so it has become a problem.
Would you want to live in Saudi Arabia with your family? I wouldn't and I don't think I'm in the minority, therefore I wouldn't want them all moving here. Okay, my last point is very dramatic but you get my point. Too much change, too quickly is bad. A little bit of change over a longer time period is good.
Very well put.Would you want to live in Saudi Arabia with your family? I wouldn't and I don't think I'm in the minority, therefore I wouldn't want them all moving here. Okay, my last point is very dramatic but you get my point. Too much change, too quickly is bad. A little bit of change over a longer time period is good.
McFsC said:
I don't want to go wherever I want as some areas on this Earth have people with different cultures and beliefs. Likewise, I don't want too many people moving from these areas to a place I am happy with and trying to enforce their cultures and beliefs on a society I am relatively happy with. However, there are good people in all areas on Earth so more control is required as oppose to just 'shutting the doors'. Immigration can be very good but over the past 10 years or so it has become a problem.
Would you want to live in Saudi Arabia with your family? I wouldn't and I don't think I'm in the minority, therefore I wouldn't want them all moving here. Okay, my last point is very dramatic but you get my point. Too much change, too quickly is bad. A little bit of change over a longer time period is good.
Key word being want, if you dont want to go somewhere you dont have to. As you've said I wouldnt want to live in Saudi Arabia either although my neighbours have just moved from Saudi and they are nice people.Would you want to live in Saudi Arabia with your family? I wouldn't and I don't think I'm in the minority, therefore I wouldn't want them all moving here. Okay, my last point is very dramatic but you get my point. Too much change, too quickly is bad. A little bit of change over a longer time period is good.
I think I am just bitter because my first passport is going to cost me £90 before I can even think about going somewhere other than the UK.
Meridius said:
Key word being want, if you dont want to go somewhere you dont have to.
I don't want to go to Saudi as the people have a culture I don't agree with but if them all of them people move here then I have effectively 'went' there as the same result has happened and I am living in a culture I disagree with and don't want to socialise in.That's the point. However, if more checks were done on these people and like you say, the lovely, hard working people were picked out, do you think the same people who moan about immigration would be THAT bothered about it? I don't.
TheHeretic said:
vonuber said:
Edit: actually I can't be arsed. This is just more half baked racism.
I'd written a fairly big post, then decided fk it! McFsC said:
I don't want to go to Saudi as the people have a culture I don't agree with but if them all of them people move here then I have effectively 'went' there as the same result has happened and I am living in a culture I disagree with and don't want to socialise in.
That's the point. However, if more checks were done on these people and like you say, the lovely, hard working people were picked out, do you think the same people who moan about immigration would be THAT bothered about it? I don't.
It has to be a two sided affair though, those moaning about immigration are quick to pick out the bad seeds and criminals from foreign countries, which is partially understandable when many have come straight from warzones, although still not excusable but often dont mention that Britain has bred many of the same criminals.That's the point. However, if more checks were done on these people and like you say, the lovely, hard working people were picked out, do you think the same people who moan about immigration would be THAT bothered about it? I don't.
All this aside the OP seems an incredibly ignorant one and bordering on a proposal of some sort of cleansing that not even the most dailymailer of Pistonheaders would go as far as to suggest.
Yeh, I totally agree with that.
Somewhere in the middle would be good, like you said, we breed our own criminals so why should we invite an excess from the rest of the world to live here? I don't want to live with them in their country, I don't want to live with them in the country I was born.
The solution is to have more stringent checks, be a little stricter and get the number of immigrants coming to live in the UK per year down to about 25,000.
Somewhere in the middle would be good, like you said, we breed our own criminals so why should we invite an excess from the rest of the world to live here? I don't want to live with them in their country, I don't want to live with them in the country I was born.
The solution is to have more stringent checks, be a little stricter and get the number of immigrants coming to live in the UK per year down to about 25,000.
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