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Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Theresa May 'planning changes to immigrant test'

The home secretary said it was difficult to say how migration would develop in the coming weeks

UK plans for EU immigration rise
Home Secretary Theresa May is reported to be planning changes to the test taken by foreign nationals who wish to become British citizens.

The Life in the United Kingdom test was introduced by Labour in 2005.

The Sunday Times says immigrants will be told "historically the UK is a Christian country".

The revised version will focus less on the practicalities of daily living in Britain and require more knowledge of British history and achievements.

Inventions and discoveries
The paper says immigrants will also have to learn the first verse of the national anthem before they can become UK citizens.

Mrs May is understood to have scrapped sections of the test which dealt with claiming benefits and the Human Rights Act.

Instead potential immigrants will be expected to learn about Byron, the Duke of Wellington, Shakespeare and other historical and cultural figures.

The new handbook, expected to be issued in the autumn, will include sections about key battles, such as Trafalgar, and British inventions and discoveries.

A Home Office official said: "It's a move away from the old one - stuff on rights, practical info that has little to do with British culture - to one that is clear about responsibilities and requires people to have a grounding in our history."

The handbook is the basis of a 45-minute test which potential citizens can take at one of 90 centres around the UK.

bobbylondonuk

2,199 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Finally some sense in the test! I took this test and I was surprised it had nothing about being British and everything about what you can draw from the system and how it works! My wife and I were laughing at the morons who designed the test and then saddened by the quality of new citizens this test creates. One of the reasons I hate labour!

Colonial

13,553 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Mermaid said:
Theresa May 'planning changes to immigrant test'

The home secretary said it was difficult to say how migration would develop in the coming weeks

UK plans for EU immigration rise
Home Secretary Theresa May is reported to be planning changes to the test taken by foreign nationals who wish to become British citizens.

The Life in the United Kingdom test was introduced by Labour in 2005.

The Sunday Times says immigrants will be told "historically the UK is a Christian country".

The revised version will focus less on the practicalities of daily living in Britain and require more knowledge of British history and achievements.

Inventions and discoveries
The paper says immigrants will also have to learn the first verse of the national anthem before they can become UK citizens.

Mrs May is understood to have scrapped sections of the test which dealt with claiming benefits and the Human Rights Act.

Instead potential immigrants will be expected to learn about Byron, the Duke of Wellington, Shakespeare and other historical and cultural figures.

The new handbook, expected to be issued in the autumn, will include sections about key battles, such as Trafalgar, and British inventions and discoveries.

A Home Office official said: "It's a move away from the old one - stuff on rights, practical info that has little to do with British culture - to one that is clear about responsibilities and requires people to have a grounding in our history."

The handbook is the basis of a 45-minute test which potential citizens can take at one of 90 centres around the UK.
I'd like to see the average bnp thug take the test.

Countdown

39,899 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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In my view the test is irrelevant - anybody can pass a test and passing it doesn't make you a valuable citizen.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Colonial said:
I'd like to see the average bnp thug take the test.
Why just them? I bet most people would probably fail it! hehe

Chris Type R

8,030 posts

249 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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It's all very well tinkering with tests, and introducing points systems, but none of this applies to EU immigration. I can't imagine that there will be quotas introduced to limit the number of people gaining political asylum either.

So basically it's a band-aid on a small part of the "problem". The pressures on infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. are likely to remain largely unchanged.

I don't know what the solution is.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Chris Type R said:
It's all very well tinkering with tests, and introducing points systems, but none of this applies to EU immigration. I can't imagine that there will be quotas introduced to limit the number of people gaining political asylum either.

So basically it's a band-aid on a small part of the "problem". The pressures on infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. are likely to remain largely unchanged.

I don't know what the solution is.
I assume that means other EU countries would do exactly the same for all those Brits who want a place in the sun.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Colonial said:
I'd like to see the average bnp thug take the test.
Why just them? I bet most people would probably fail it! hehe
Quite.
I'd like to see the average poster here take it.biggrin

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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god save our queen
god save our gracious queen
mumble mumble mumble
mumble mumble mumble

god this is dreary.

FrankyH

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54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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R1gtr said:
I am not that bothered about people coming here to work, all credit to them.
However I do have a problem with them being given preferential treatment, we treat them better than we ourselves would be treated if we moved to Poland for example. Can you imagine what would happen if you showed up in Poland and expected a Council house, benefits for your kids back home in Blighty and expected to go straight to the top of the NHS queue?? Quite rightly they would tell you to do one.

I am proud that people would like to come to Britain to work and intigrate into our culture as long as they are not here for a free handout.
My only concern is that if some regulations are not put in place then younger generations may suffer when trying to find employment.
You are talking like there's only a few immigrants. They already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in. Isn't 20 odd % enough? (too much in fact).
So you think we should just keep allowing immigration until we are outnumbered in our own country (genocide)? We have a choice here, and this is what you think we should choose to do to our own people in our own country?
I do not. Everyone is going to decide who they agree with.


Edited by FrankyH on Sunday 1st July 16:30

FrankyH

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54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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unrepentant said:
FrankyH said:
They already make up 20 odd %, isn't that enough ( too much in fact)? Imagine say China making 20 odd % of China non Chinese, or Japan making Japan 20 odd % non Japanese, or Pakistan making Pakistan 20 odd % non Pakistani, and still letting more in, and you will see how unnatural and insane and wrong this is. We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either.
Who are our own people?

And when you say "they" who do you mean? Theat pretty blonde Australian barmaid? That Kevin Pietersen fellow?
This is an example of the type of propaganda they use to get us to accept our own genocide.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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i don't understand where the genocide comes from.

FrankyH

Original Poster:

54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Halb said:
FrankyH said:
They already make up 20 odd %, isn't that enough ( too much in fact)? Imagine say China making 20 odd % of China non Chinese, or Japan making Japan 20 odd % non Japanese, or Pakistan making Pakistan 20 odd % non Pakistani, and still letting more in, and you will see how unnatural and insane and wrong this is. We are not doing this to our own people in our own country either.
20 odd %? Where is that number from?

I wouldn't wish to emulate the Japanese, they are a particularly racist lot.
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001, from the census. They have been allowing well over half a million in every single year since then. Quick maths tells us they already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.


Edited by FrankyH on Sunday 1st July 16:29

FrankyH

Original Poster:

54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Mermaid said:
If the government was to say " with immediate effect, and for 3 years, there will be zero immigration whilst we sort ourselves out. Once we are in rude health, we will re-open the gates on a measured basis."

Would the majority of the population be in favour of that decision?
What's the point in only slowing down when we are outnumbered in our own country?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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FrankyH said:
85% of our country was White British way back in 2001, from the census. They have been allowing well over half a million in every single year sine then. Quick maths tells us they already make up 20 odd %, and they are still letting more in.
That is assuming that the British white, (not including British Asian, black, or welsh (hehe) in that figure are not increasing.

FrankyH

Original Poster:

54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Mermaid said:
Theresa May 'planning changes to immigrant test'

The home secretary said it was difficult to say how migration would develop in the coming weeks

UK plans for EU immigration rise
Home Secretary Theresa May is reported to be planning changes to the test taken by foreign nationals who wish to become British citizens.

The Life in the United Kingdom test was introduced by Labour in 2005.

The Sunday Times says immigrants will be told "historically the UK is a Christian country".

The revised version will focus less on the practicalities of daily living in Britain and require more knowledge of British history and achievements.

Inventions and discoveries
The paper says immigrants will also have to learn the first verse of the national anthem before they can become UK citizens.

Mrs May is understood to have scrapped sections of the test which dealt with claiming benefits and the Human Rights Act.

Instead potential immigrants will be expected to learn about Byron, the Duke of Wellington, Shakespeare and other historical and cultural figures.

The new handbook, expected to be issued in the autumn, will include sections about key battles, such as Trafalgar, and British inventions and discoveries.

A Home Office official said: "It's a move away from the old one - stuff on rights, practical info that has little to do with British culture - to one that is clear about responsibilities and requires people to have a grounding in our history."

The handbook is the basis of a 45-minute test which potential citizens can take at one of 90 centres around the UK.
Oh well!, they can outnumber us in our own country (genocide) now, this changes everything! (SARCASM)

FrankyH

Original Poster:

54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Chris Type R said:
It's all very well tinkering with tests, and introducing points systems, but none of this applies to EU immigration. I can't imagine that there will be quotas introduced to limit the number of people gaining political asylum either.

So basically it's a band-aid on a small part of the "problem". The pressures on infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc. are likely to remain largely unchanged.

I don't know what the solution is.
Stop immigration, and begin a repatriation programme to get the numbers back down to a reasonable level.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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why is it genocide if there are more of 'them' than 'us'?

FrankyH

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54 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Use Psychology said:
i don't understand where the genocide comes from.
Genocide, "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group".

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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FrankyH said:
Genocide, "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group".
You have an imaginative interpretation. It is nothing like genocide.