Falling for this one again

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AJS-

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18517412

Persecuted Muslim minority on the border between a Muslim and a non-muslim state. How long before they want their own country and UN support for doing so? The BBC seem all for it.

No it's not Palestine, Kosovo, Kashmir or Bradford but Burma this time.


Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18517412

Persecuted Muslim minority on the border between a Muslim and a non-muslim state. How long before they want their own country and UN support for doing so? The BBC seem all for it.

No it's not Palestine, Kosovo, Kashmir or Bradford but Burma this time.
I am missing the bit where the BBC says it is for or against one thing or another.

Are you making up bias again?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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They ARE refugees, and people ARE being killed in considerable numbers. Don't see what the problem is with these people fleeing at all.

AJS-

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Give them time, Colonial.

Heretic
Not defending the Burmese here, but it seems to be a common theme where a Muslim state borders a non-Muslim state. We're persecuted, help us! Until they're in a position to do some persecution of their own.

In this case a group of Muslims raping and murdering a Burmese Buddhist woman seems to be the catalyst, but I somehow doubt it was an isolated case.

TheHeretic

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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And the bus of Muslims that was blown up, killing 10? I'm no fan of the religious, but there are innocents in every conflict, and garnering points against Muslims because some of them are fleeing violence is just ridiculous. Burma has a recent history of utter, utter horrific violence.

AJS-

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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So do Muslims.

I am sorry for the genuinely persecuted, but I'm also wary of another Kosovo type case where international sympathy is used to intervene in, and otherwise break up a sovereign state in favour of a vocal and violent Muslim minority.

Colonial

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
Give them time, Colonial.

Heretic
Not defending the Burmese here, but it seems to be a common theme where a Muslim state borders a non-Muslim state. We're persecuted, help us! Until they're in a position to do some persecution of their own.

In this case a group of Muslims raping and murdering a Burmese Buddhist woman seems to be the catalyst, but I somehow doubt it was an isolated case.
Brilliant.

They just have to mention something as, well, news (as it is) and you think they are biased.

No. Not brilliant. The opposite. Pathetic.

Given their situation and the way in which the former Junta operated (and to be honest still does operate) they are a persecuted minority. They are denied status as citizens. Retribution against innocent people who happened to share the same religion from those peace loving Buddhists caused a lot of the issue.

Your own bias is showing far more than any other bias.

iphonedyou

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158 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
Give them time, Colonial.
So Colonial is right then; there is no bias and you posted that bit about the BBC solely in the expectation that at some point in the future, the BBC will show bias?

I don't get it.


AJS-

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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It was the video that annoyed me more. Can't find it now.

But yes, strong assumption in favour of BBC bias.

rs1952

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260 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Bias - the word we use when somebody says something that doesn't accord with our views on the subject

Regime - the word we use when we don't like some other country's government

Terrorist - the word we use when we don't agree with the cause that the opposing lot are fighting us about.

The joys of the English language smile

rohrl

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146 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
It was the video that annoyed me more. Can't find it now.

But yes, strong assumption in favour of BBC bias.
None of your own though?

AJS-

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rohrl said:
AJS- said:
It was the video that annoyed me more. Can't find it now.

But yes, strong assumption in favour of BBC bias.
None of your own though?
Plenty. But I don't collect a TV licence or claim to be impartial.

TheHeretic

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Can you point out what the bias was?

rohrl

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AJS- said:
rohrl said:
AJS- said:
It was the video that annoyed me more. Can't find it now.

But yes, strong assumption in favour of BBC bias.
None of your own though?
Plenty. But I don't collect a TV licence or claim to be impartial.
No, but you do claim to be able to spot bias in others, notably the BBC. My point is that a balanced report delivered by the BBC will appear biased to the left if viewed through the eyes of a right-winger and vice-versa. If you don't allow for this you're liable to see a lot more bias around than really exists. Not many people are honest enough to admit their own bias; it's a lot easier to blame everyone else for their bias.

AJS-

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The point wasn't really BBC bias, silly comment. More about the Muslim habit of generating a crisis in any area where they become a majority, and then crying persecution.

pilchardthecat

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180 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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rohrl said:
AJS- said:
rohrl said:
AJS- said:
It was the video that annoyed me more. Can't find it now.

But yes, strong assumption in favour of BBC bias.
None of your own though?
Plenty. But I don't collect a TV licence or claim to be impartial.
No, but you do claim to be able to spot bias in others, notably the BBC. My point is that a balanced report delivered by the BBC will appear biased to the left if viewed through the eyes of a right-winger and vice-versa. If you don't allow for this you're liable to see a lot more bias around than really exists. Not many people are honest enough to admit their own bias; it's a lot easier to blame everyone else for their bias.
That argument is often made, but the real scandal of BBC bias is that they have quietly moved the centre, so that the very definition of "left" and "right" in discussion of bias is always relative to their definition of the middle.

TheHeretic

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
The point wasn't really BBC bias, silly comment. More about the Muslim habit of generating a crisis in any area where they become a majority, and then crying persecution.
So people being killed in a country where historically, recent and not so recent, people have been killed in droves, is 'generating a crisis... And then crying persecution"?

Can we just agree you have anti-Muslim feelings, and call it a day?

AJS-

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TheHeretic said:
AJS- said:
The point wasn't really BBC bias, silly comment. More about the Muslim habit of generating a crisis in any area where they become a majority, and then crying persecution.
So people being killed in a country where historically, recent and not so recent, people have been killed in droves, is 'generating a crisis... And then crying persecution"?

Can we just agree you have anti-Muslim feelings, and call it a day?
Can if you want. See ya!

Colonial

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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AJS- said:
The point wasn't really BBC bias, silly comment. More about the Muslim habit of generating a crisis in any area where they become a majority, and then crying persecution.
So, ethnic minority in military junta that aren't recognised as citizens who are treated as less than property are the ones who are causing all the problems?

TheHeretic

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Tuesday 3rd July 2012
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Colonial said:
So, ethnic minority in military junta that aren't recognised as citizens who are treated as less than property are the ones who are causing all the problems?
Pfft, bloody Muslims. rolleyes

heheAlthough it really isn't funny