Fingerprinting at UK airports?

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XCP

16,933 posts

229 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Oakey said:
Really? You aren't somewhat concerned how her fingerprint came to be at the scene of a murder in a house she'd never been in? And you can't see how the authoritites having everyones fingerprints regardless of whether they are criminals or not might be a problem given the above?

ETA: It's worth noting that despite her being aquitted, they refused to admit they'd made a mistake until 2011 when they finally apologised;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...

Edited by Oakey on Friday 6th July 10:08
I'd be slightly concerned if there was some link between the electronic One finger at the airport and the Scottish Fingerprint bureau. As there isn't I fail to see the connection ( literally). I would have thought that if the authorities really wanted a selection of my fingerprints, all they have to do is retain my boarding pass. After all if they do that, they have my DNA as well.

Oakey

27,592 posts

217 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Would that even be legal?

Piersman2

6,599 posts

200 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Is '1984', the George Orwell book, on the school syllabus anymore?

I re-read it a few years back and it seems more apt to day than it ever did 25 years ago when I first read it.

If you've not read it, I urge you to. It's not a long book although I'm afraid it has no pictures for the youngeters to help keep their attention. smile

I read it when New Labour were at their peak and trying to roll out ID cards, it's almost like a blueprint of what Labour were trying to achieve.

XCP

16,933 posts

229 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Oakey said:
Would that even be legal?
Is any of what is under discussion here?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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neilr said:
If youve got nothing to hide then you've got te hright to live your life away from the prying eyes of government agents and agencies. Wake up.
I raised exactly the same point in the thread about employers tracking the private cars of employees and I wish you were there for me. Tracking of anything when you're doing nothing wrong is awful as a concept

XCP

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Friday 6th July 2012
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bulldong said:
I raised exactly the same point in the thread about employers tracking the private cars of employees and I wish you were there for me. Tracking of anything when you're doing nothing wrong is awful as a concept
What do you think your passport is for?

andy_s

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260 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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XCP said:
bulldong said:
I raised exactly the same point in the thread about employers tracking the private cars of employees and I wish you were there for me. Tracking of anything when you're doing nothing wrong is awful as a concept
What do you think your passport is for?
Entering a foreign country, getting back into your own.


Edited by andy_s on Friday 6th July 12:32

XCP

16,933 posts

229 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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andy_s said:
Entering a foreign country, getting back into your own.


Edited by andy_s on Friday 6th July 12:32
and that isn't tracking your movements?

andy_s

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Friday 6th July 2012
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XCP said:
andy_s said:
Entering a foreign country, getting back into your own.


Edited by andy_s on Friday 6th July 12:32
and that isn't tracking your movements?
It's a by product, it isn't intended to track, it's intended to prove bona fides before entering a country.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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XCP said:
andy_s said:
Entering a foreign country, getting back into your own.


Edited by andy_s on Friday 6th July 12:32
and that isn't tracking your movements?
That is a method that is required for travelling. Tracking of vehicles and taking personal information etc is totally different.

XCP

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229 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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bulldong said:
That is a method that is required for travelling. Tracking of vehicles and taking personal information etc is totally different.
What do mean by 'tracking of vehicles' and 'taking personal information etc'.

The last time I went on a ferry to France this is pretty much exactly what happened.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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and yet how many of you carry cell phones? better yet smartphones with gps. doh

TTwiggy

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205 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Bohally said:
An airport is a public place though. If the finger printing helps crack down on drug smugglers or some towel head who's intent on blowing us up then I don't see the issue.
Yes, because it's clearly the case that every bomb-carrying extemist has already handed over their fingerprint records. Good grief.

Starfighter

4,930 posts

179 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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XCP said:
What do you think your passport is for?
Confirming the identiy of an individual at a border crossing.

A finger print check is only anygood if there is a reputable database for comprison.

Tafia

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249 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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PoleDriver said:
For the last few years I have been flying, on average, twice a month. The only time I've ever had fingerprints taken when going into USA. Even then it was done electronically, so no inky fingers involved.
Pointless thread is pointless! frown
Not pointless at all. It was a legitimate question given the widely reported intention to fingerprint us all at UK airports.

Seems it has not yet come to pass though I haven't seen any official retraction of the plan

Tafia

Original Poster:

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Friday 6th July 2012
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Piersman2 said:
Is '1984', the George Orwell book, on the school syllabus anymore?

I re-read it a few years back and it seems more apt to day than it ever did 25 years ago when I first read it.

If you've not read it, I urge you to. It's not a long book although I'm afraid it has no pictures for the youngeters to help keep their attention. smile

I read it when New Labour were at their peak and trying to roll out ID cards, it's almost like a blueprint of what Labour were trying to achieve.
I thought the same thing at the time.

And Mr Orwell's name was Blair too. Spooky?

Tafia

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249 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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XCP said:
What do you think your passport is for?
But does that track us or simply reveal to which airport we are going? Once we leave the airport.................freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



jimothy

5,151 posts

238 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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If you don't want to be fingerprinted, don't bother traveling to Asia. I've had it done in Thailand and Korea.

XCP

16,933 posts

229 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Tafia said:
But does that track us or simply reveal to which airport we are going? Once we leave the airport.................freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
very similar to giving a fingerprint then. How does that track anyone?

PoleDriver

28,645 posts

195 months

Friday 6th July 2012
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Tafia said:
PoleDriver said:
For the last few years I have been flying, on average, twice a month. The only time I've ever had fingerprints taken when going into USA. Even then it was done electronically, so no inky fingers involved.
Pointless thread is pointless! frown
Not pointless at all. It was a legitimate question given the widely reported intention to fingerprint us all at UK airports.

Seems it has not yet come to pass though I haven't seen any official retraction of the plan
It was pointless from the point of view of the question asked in the OP:-

"Does any one know if this fingerprinting at airports is still going on even for those on domestic flights?"

It couldn't be going on because it never started!

However, it does seem to have lead to an interesting discussion, so I retract my original statement on those grounds! smile