bloody weather!
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goldblum said:
turbobloke said:
It's chaotic behaviour.
So, define 'normal' as these episodes happen normally.
Nothing to do with lemonade fizz from PHers' cars.
Nope Sky news weathergirl just said it's not normal jetstream fluctuation,and she's a professional.So, define 'normal' as these episodes happen normally.
Nothing to do with lemonade fizz from PHers' cars.
Digga said:
May be the wettest June, but I cannot think that June 2007 was too far behind. I can clearly remebmer the disruption it caused our industry and the way in which it rained - less big downpours at a time, but more just huge cloud masses and steady, persistent rain.
A friend who flys (for fun, in a Yak 52) reckoned the only time he'd ever seen similar cloud mass was over the Midwestern US states.
Indeed, June 2007 was the previous record. A friend who flys (for fun, in a Yak 52) reckoned the only time he'd ever seen similar cloud mass was over the Midwestern US states.
July that year also pretty wet in places...
Mark Benson said:
Why's that, if they are.
This isn't Facebook you know. If you're wrong about something, you're likely to be told. Grow up.
I was merely suggesting that the weather over the last few months has been extreme, the facts would seem to support this statement and my response was a reaction to someone suggesting otherwise. Not Facebook, boy that made me laugh along with the friendly advice, but be careful as someone could actually take you seriously which might cause unnecessary upset.This isn't Facebook you know. If you're wrong about something, you're likely to be told. Grow up.
Blue62 said:
I was merely suggesting that the weather over the last few months has been extreme, the facts would seem to support this statement and my response was a reaction to someone suggesting otherwise.
If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
That's just it, the 'facts' don't support any such thing but it looks different as the media doesn't have a clue and won't take the trouble to find out. Officialdom is little better, the authorities have no authority. If somebody isn't prepared to find out for themselves, because they can't or won't and if it's served up on a plate and the same myths and legends are still believed, there's no point in continuing. If people have some weird need and want to believe fairytales for personal reasons, reasoning will always be a waste of time.
Its climate change time 
We are going to get more rain and more droughts
At the same time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18744189
We are going to get more rain and more droughts
At the same time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18744189
Blue62 said:
That's all anecdotal and while I don't want to engage in scaremongering, the facts are that we are witnessing more extreme patterns of weather with records being broken for dry and wet spells over the last few years. It could well be that we are just going through a cycle of unusual patterns and it has nothing to do with global warming, but don't start telling us that you've seen it all before because put frankly, we haven't.
I remember ball boys swimming in the flooded stairwells and walkways at Wimbledon years back. The weather is no different around the World than it's always been. It's just that more parts of the Earth have sophisticated weather monitoring stations and communications are so much better. Mix in 24 hour b
ks, I mean news and every single itty-bitty thing gets thrown at us.rs1952 said:
If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
Perth bridge in scotlandHow many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
We're doomed
thinfourth2 said:
Its climate change time
We are going to get more rain and more droughts
At the same time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18744189
Goes to prove that when it comes to Climate change believers, you can have your cake and eat it too.We are going to get more rain and more droughts
At the same time
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18744189
They've got a f
king model for everything, that mob.
That sounds like the message that got into one of the major comedy works of our time, the Stern Report.
Not that this thread should become a climate zone, as it's about normal variations in our weather (some normal variations are less frequent, still normal) but since weather is climate when it halps alarmists in their cause, here's what an IPCC Expert Reviewer had to say about this kind of silliness.
Not that this thread should become a climate zone, as it's about normal variations in our weather (some normal variations are less frequent, still normal) but since weather is climate when it halps alarmists in their cause, here's what an IPCC Expert Reviewer had to say about this kind of silliness.
Prof Kellow said:
I was a referee for Chapter 19 in the Report on 'Key Vulnerabilities and Risk Assessment'...I put it that the First Order Draft read as if (in a warmer, and therefore wetter, world) no rain would fall in any form that would be in any way useful to anyone: there would be only floods and droughts.
The Second Order Draft included some language to the effect that this was because the Committee had decided that it should be so, to which I responded that they should not then represent their analysis as a risk assessment, since any sensible risk assessment must include benefits as well as costs. I'm not holding my breath for this criticism to be taken on board either, which underscores a fault in the whole peer review process for the IPCC: there is no chance of a Chapter ever being rejected for publication, no matter how flawed it might be.
State sponsored junk and bunk never had it so good.The Second Order Draft included some language to the effect that this was because the Committee had decided that it should be so, to which I responded that they should not then represent their analysis as a risk assessment, since any sensible risk assessment must include benefits as well as costs. I'm not holding my breath for this criticism to be taken on board either, which underscores a fault in the whole peer review process for the IPCC: there is no chance of a Chapter ever being rejected for publication, no matter how flawed it might be.
rs1952 said:
If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
I don't think I was referring to you, but in any case I remember many of the instances to which you refer and don't doubt them for a moment. I am keeping an open mind on climate change, however, my original point was simply that we have had a record run for wet weather over the last 3, possibly 4 months and I dared to suggest that is unusual. I can't remember so many summer events being affected either, but I'm sure I will be corrected by someone desperate to kill any notion of things being anything but normal. How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
Blue62 said:
rs1952 said:
If that someone was me, I presume you haven't looked at the links I gave you on the previous page. 1968 floods Bristol, 1952 floods Lynmouth, 1953 floods East Anglia, 1962/63 winter, 1976 drought. There are plenty more if I could be arsed to look, and turbobloke gave you a few as well.
How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
I don't think I was referring to you, but in any case I remember many of the instances to which you refer and don't doubt them for a moment. I am keeping an open mind on climate change, however, my original point was simply that we have had a record run for wet weather over the last 3, possibly 4 months and I dared to suggest that is unusual. I can't remember so many summer events being affected either, but I'm sure I will be corrected by someone desperate to kill any notion of things being anything but normal. How many more "anecdotes" do you need to see before you realise you're barking up the wrong tree?
In a nutshell, there's nothing special or unusual about what's been happening with the UK weather over the last few years.
Don't keep an open mind on climate change, it's been happening for millions of years.
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