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Tiggsy
7,180 posts
121 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Why are our players so thick? Foreign players always seem far more rounded human beings. They arrive here and they can already speak English, some of them better than our lot!
Juan Mata is about 23 and is studying for his second degree whilst living in London, as well as being a repected amateur photographer. I just can't imagine any of our lot going to live abroad and seeing it as a great opportunity to study in a foreign country and pursue their artist hobbies! Grass roots - high percentage of kids pushed into football are from thick parents. Same as why (i expect) a high percentage of kids that ride ponies do well in their A levels! My kid plays for Southern England Basketball and this weekend there was a dad yelling at his kid from the bleachers during training. After a while a few of the other parents had to tell him to shut up and that "it wasn't football".....yet had it been, his attitude (loud retard) would have been the norm. (why my kids have never played football in their lives!)
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TheHeretic
68,168 posts
124 months
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TwigtheWonderkid said: Why are our players so thick? Foreign players always seem far more rounded human beings. They arrive here and they can already speak English, some of them better than our lot!
Juan Mata is about 23 and is studying for his second degree whilst living in London, as well as being a repected amateur photographer. I just can't imagine any of our lot going to live abroad and seeing it as a great opportunity to study in a foreign country and pursue their artist hobbies! Not all players are like that. Again a small minority of the 'usual suspects' reside on the back pages, (or front pages for that matter). There are many many footballers who do their job, have a family, do stuff in the community, all without reaping the benefits of loutish behaviour that gets their name in the paper.
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XCP
10,499 posts
97 months
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My son plays Rugby. Next to his home pitch but separated by a wire fence is a football pitch, where the local amateur team play. The piches are about 25 meters apart. Several times last season the Rugby spectators had to tell the coaching staff to shut up because of the amount of 4 letter words that were being shouted at top volume at the players and officials from the coaching benches. I am not suggesting for one moment that there is not foul language in Rugby, of course there is. But to have coaches shouting 'f  k' every second word across the pitch is not acceptable in my view. Coaches and managers should be setting an example surely.
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blindswelledrat
18,974 posts
101 months
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XCP said: My son plays Rugby. Next to his home pitch but separated by a wire fence is a football pitch, where the local amateur team play. The piches are about 25 meters apart. Several times last season the Rugby spectators had to tell the coaching staff to shut up because of the amount of 4 letter words that were being shouted at top volume at the players and officials from the coaching benches. I am not suggesting for one moment that there is not foul language in Rugby, of course there is. But to have coaches shouting 'f k' every second word across the pitch is not acceptable in my view. Coaches and managers should be setting an example surely. Lovely as this anecdote is, one coach does not represent all of football. COnversely I have never witnessed this kind of behaviour from a football manager, yet I have seen rugby players set fire to tissue which has been inserted into thier own anus. WHat can we conclude?
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BrabusMog
4,957 posts
55 months
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TheHeretic
68,168 posts
124 months
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blindswelledrat said: Lovely as this anecdote is, one coach does not represent all of football.
COnversely I have never witnessed this kind of behaviour from a football manager, yet I have seen rugby players set fire to tissue which has been inserted into thier own anus.
WHat can we conclude? Clearly rugby players have yet to read the instructions on the packet of Andrex.
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XCP
10,499 posts
97 months
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blindswelledrat said: Lovely as this anecdote is, one coach does not represent all of football.
COnversely I have never witnessed this kind of behaviour from a football manager, yet I have seen rugby players set fire to tissue which has been inserted into thier own anus.
WHat can we conclude? You misunderstand my point. I live within 100 meters of said pitch. I can hear the swearing when I am sat in my dining room, every matchday and every training session. It is not one coach, it is a culture of shouting foul language. It would not be acceptable in the high street, why should it be acceptable at a football match? The fact that the Rugby pitch is next door is incidental. It does make it wearing to be watching a game with a continual barrage of four letter words behind you though and that is why we have told them to shut up.
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BrabusMog
4,957 posts
55 months
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XCP said: blindswelledrat said: Lovely as this anecdote is, one coach does not represent all of football.
COnversely I have never witnessed this kind of behaviour from a football manager, yet I have seen rugby players set fire to tissue which has been inserted into thier own anus.
WHat can we conclude? You misunderstand my point. I live within 100 meters of said pitch. I can hear the swearing when I am sat in my dining room, every matchday and every training session. It is not one coach, it is a culture of shouting foul language. It would not be acceptable in the high street, why should it be acceptable at a football match? The fact that the Rugby pitch is next door is incidental. It does make it wearing to be watching a game with a continual barrage of four letter words behind you though and that is why we have told them to shut up. What sort of area do you live in? The reason I ask is because when I played football in Hornchurch for home matches there wasn't really much swearing at all but if we played away at somewhere like Rainham there was foul language being shouted even by the mothers. I'd suggest it's as much a class thing as a football thing - we weren't allowed to swear or else we'd get fined/suspended by the club itself as I learnt to my own cost when I got overheard calling another player a by the coach.
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mattnunn
4,114 posts
30 months
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Rio Ferdinand call Ashley Cole a choc ice on twitter.
Watch out, Ashley is OG, firearms history, he gonna get capped.
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XCP
10,499 posts
97 months
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Average, middle class area I would say. I have no idea where the players come from though.
I have to say that the pitch is also used by a ladies club. There is nowhere near as much swearing when they are playing, even though ( or perhaps because) they play a much higher level than the men.
It's a shame really. It's a floodlit, all weather facility which is really top notch in terms of facilities.
But as I say, the language spoils it.
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thinfourth2
23,607 posts
73 months
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mattnunn said: Rio Ferdinand call Ashley Cole a choc ice on twitter.
Watch out, Ashley is OG, firearms history, he gonna get capped. Oh for f k sake Exactly how many times are we told the police are hugely over stretched and oh look http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-18...Must mean they have solved all other crime
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Countdown
6,358 posts
65 months
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mattnunn said: Rio Ferdinand call Ashley Cole a choc ice on twitter.
Watch out, Ashley is OG, firearms history, he gonna get capped. 
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fido
9,392 posts
124 months
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Tiggsy said: Grass roots - high percentage of kids pushed into football are from thick parents. Same as why (i expect) a high percentage of kids that ride ponies do well in their A levels!
My kid plays for Southern England Basketball and this weekend there was a dad yelling at his kid from the bleachers during training. After a while a few of the other parents had to tell him to shut up and that "it wasn't football".....yet had it been, his attitude (loud retard) would have been the norm. (why my kids have never played football in their lives!) It may be a cliche but it is quite an accurate one. Pretty much all the kids i remember from school could be stereotyped in this way. I liked playing football but the school and most of the parents liked Rugby and Cricket. Nowadays i can appreciate their choice. Come to think of it the brightest kids didn't play sports or did athletics/cross-country.
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smegmore
1,717 posts
45 months
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mattnunn said: Rio Ferdinand call Ashley Cole a choc ice on twitter.
Watch out, Ashley is OG, firearms history, he gonna get capped.  
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