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Asterix
16,451 posts
97 months
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Rumours abound that Teresa May's hubby has a significant holding of G4S shares.
I really do feel sorry for the lads. We used to get dicked for all sorts of daft things but we were far less stretched back in my day. A lot of the guys will just be back from Ops and having their leave cancelled to search handbags. It's hugely insulting.
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58warren
424 posts
48 months
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To be fair, all the forces guys on site are doing a much more thorough and professional job than G4S ever did and are also really nice to deal with. I couldn't understand most of the instructions from G4S employees as their English was either poor or non-existent.
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HOGEPH
3,215 posts
55 months
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ED209 said: This is the future when G4S are policing the streets. 
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Asterix
16,451 posts
97 months
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58warren said: To be fair, all the forces guys on site are doing a much more thorough and professional job than G4S ever did and are also really nice to deal with. I couldn't understand most of the instructions from G4S employees as their English was either poor or non-existent. The forces lads will have a bit of a chunter, because they can, but they're proud of their professionalism and will do a top job - doesn't mean they want to be there. Knowing their mentality, they'll make the most of it - I'm sure a few East London boozers are going to see increased takings 
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andy_s
8,471 posts
128 months
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 "Three more degrees to the left. That's the Home Office." (Courtesy arrse)General Sir Nick Parker, commander of land forces, said he was unconcerned that the military was required to help the Olympics at short notice. General Parker said:
"I am entirely comfortable with the warning time. Short notice, rapid reaction, flexibility is what we do. From my perspective, 12 hours to grab your kit and go is short notice – this is not. And let me reiterate that the feeling amongst military personnel about their involvement in the Olympics will be excitement, pride and a determination to do a good job."
Like they did in the Somme, what.  I have nothing further to add to this latest debacle, as I'll start a proper full blown  rant. The ARRSE thread entitled '"Sports Day" Additional 3500 troops as G4S drops the Ball (but not the bill??)' says it all.
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condor
6,260 posts
117 months
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greygoose said: I agree totally, if you pay peanuts you get poorly trained muppets with little idea of what they are supposed to be doing. I remember seeing the job ads a few months ago - I was tempted as I thought that might be a good way to see the olympics and get paid for it. Didn't apply as the ads stated the work was 12 hour shifts each day.
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shouldbworking
3,505 posts
81 months
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So how many troops is that in total I wonder? considering that there were already sizeable commitments of both regular and reserve forces prior to this announcement.
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andy_s
8,471 posts
128 months
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shouldbworking said: So how many troops is that in total I wonder? considering that there were already sizeable commitments of both regular and reserve forces prior to this announcement. "The armed forces are already providing up to 13,500 personnel for the Games - split between the venues and back-up for police. Under the contingency plans, this could reach 16,500 – 7,000 more than are being deployed in Afghanistan."
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Asterix
16,451 posts
97 months
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This does include Navy and RAF bods for the Olympics I think - it's not just Army.
Still... daft.
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PeanutHead
7,548 posts
39 months
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andy_s said: "The armed forces are already providing up to 13,500 personnel for the Games - split between the venues and back-up for police. Under the contingency plans, this could reach 16,500 – 7,000 more than are being deployed in Afghanistan."
The protection and security of our citizens and that of other countries is paramount at this event hence the military involvement. Good 4Sodall got the contract and they can't handle it, so it's down to the guys that can. Maybe a few eyes might get raised by this and someone starts to rethink the idea of G4S being involved in private policing.
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frosted
3,549 posts
46 months
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My friend that worked as driver for cash in transit was attacked while working for g4s . After two back ops and serious underlying problems g4s offered him 2k and sacked him, even though he payed into his attack fund for longer than 4years . You do not want G4s protecting anything
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Taff107
129 posts
18 months
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General Parker said:
"I am entirely comfortable with the warning time. Short notice, rapid reaction, flexibility is what we do. From my perspective, 12 hours to grab your kit and go is short notice – this is not. And let me reiterate that the feeling amongst military personnel about their involvement in the Olympics will be excitement, pride and a determination to do a good job."
...and that is how detached these people are. I can assure you that nobody is thrilled of having their already disrupted lives f***ked up even further to stand in for these morons who cannot employ people due to their pathetic pay and shoddy training / vetting procedures. I'm sure if the guys were getting paid as much as this clown, their 'tolerance' for this disruption would be somewhat different. 2 yrs left and counting, thank god.....
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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Just a thought..
G4S CEO - I've an idea how we can squeeze more $$ from this contract
MP Friend - Go on
G4S CEO - We'll simply say we've no staff then you push for army cover to protect the people.
MP Friend - Great idea, how much more money can i have
G4S CEO - 20 million sound ok? and we must chat about that other contract
MP Friend - It's already sorted ;-)
HTH
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XCP
10,501 posts
97 months
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[quote=Asterix]Rumours abound that Teresa May's hubby has a significant holding of G4S shares.
and the new HMCIC is a director.
Cosy is not the word.
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Elroy Blue
5,685 posts
61 months
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G4S have had seven years to plan for this. On the radio to day their staff have been whistle blowing on a grand scale. Teresa May has stuck her head in the sand and denied there is any problem.
I hope this is the start of the wake up call for the British public about what this Government's long term aims are for British Policing.
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Man-At-Arms
4,950 posts
48 months
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HOGEPH said: ED209 said: This is the future when G4S are policing the streets. dead or alive, you're coming with me !!
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PeanutHead
7,548 posts
39 months
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Man-At-Arms said: dead or alive, you're coming with me !! Apt user name, 
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Elroy Blue
5,685 posts
61 months
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Surrey Police have just announced they have halted plans to privatise large parts of their Force following this debacle.
However, the Government still plan to march on.
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TonyRPH
4,740 posts
37 months
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Asterix said: Rumours abound that Teresa May's hubby has a significant holding of G4S shares. I wonder if that information is obtainable? Also - list of 'Major shareholdings' hereg4s-site said: The directors have been notified of the following substantial shareholdings at 13 June 2012 in the ordinary capital of G4S plc:
Prudential: 89,325,538 (6.33%) – this includes the 80,962,276 (5.73%) notified separately by M&G Investment Funds
Harris Associates: 69,584,044 (4.93%)
BlackRock, Inc. : 70,751,402 (5.02%)
Legal & General Group Plc: 42,320,310 (3.00%)
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Nom de ploom
2,398 posts
43 months
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there will be more troops at the olympic stadium than took the falklands by the end of next week...
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