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Norfolkit
783 posts
59 months
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blugnu said: Clearly this Olympics things is a farce. Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother.
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joe_90
3,361 posts
100 months
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Norfolkit said: Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. I think he mean the blatant whoring it off as an advertising platform is the most repulsive ways, Coke + McD's as the offical sponsors, no ball games in the Olympic park.. etc etc. Its not what it is about is it really. Plus it will always be sunny in greece.
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Digga
10,898 posts
152 months
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Derek Smith
16,056 posts
117 months
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Norfolkit said: blugnu said: Clearly this Olympics things is a farce. Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. Isn't a forum about opinion? I think it is.
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blugnu
Original Poster
1,198 posts
110 months
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joe_90 said: Norfolkit said: Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. I think he mean the blatant whoring it off as an advertising platform is the most repulsive ways, Coke + McD's as the offical sponsors, no ball games in the Olympic park.. etc etc. Its not what it is about is it really. Plus it will always be sunny in greece. Norfolkit - as others have said, I think you may be struggling with the concepts underlying a discussion forum. We can't simply answer '330d - mapped' to every one of life's questions. Although I accept that the answer to many of the remaining ones will be MX-5, obviously. Joe90 - that's exactly what I meant. It always surprises me when athletes are pleases the Olympics are in the own country. I'd be gutted at missing out on a trip somewhere else  EDIT - got Joe90 and Norfolkit the wrong way round. Oops.
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MX7
6,599 posts
43 months
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This is what I wrote almost 2 years ago: "Agree. I also think that Greece should hold all the Olympics. Each country chips in for new venues as required, and they use the same venues every time. It might actually become proftable then, and any profit can be split between the Olympic countries to promote their sports." I think that given how the economy has gone, there might be a shortage of countries willing to host these events.
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Murph7355
9,416 posts
125 months
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72EuropaTC said: I went to Athens regularly for about 18 months a few months ago. Yes much of the infrastructure is still there - roads, stadia etc. A friend there said that a fair number of the venues have fallen into disuse. Really hope that doesn't happen here. The bits that aren't scheduled to be torn down will still be in the s  thole that is Stratford. So don't bank on London following the lead of others with respect to "legacy".
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Murph7355
9,416 posts
125 months
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Haggleburyfinius said: It would be a great idea if the Olympics made money.
It's like making the poorest kid in the class hold everyone's birthday parties! The Olympics make plenty of money for someone - you don't spunk 9bn-12bn quid on something and not have some people get very wealthy from it. Even if it's just the IOC, Visa, McDs, Adidas, building contractors, Lord Coe, etc.
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Norfolkit
783 posts
59 months
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blugnu said: joe_90 said: Norfolkit said: Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. I think he mean the blatant whoring it off as an advertising platform is the most repulsive ways, Coke + McD's as the offical sponsors, no ball games in the Olympic park.. etc etc. Its not what it is about is it really. Plus it will always be sunny in greece. Norfolkit - as others have said, I think you may be struggling with the concepts underlying a discussion forum. We can't simply answer '330d - mapped' to every one of life's questions. Although I accept that the answer to many of the remaining ones will be MX-5, obviously. Joe90 - that's exactly what I meant. It always surprises me when athletes are pleases the Olympics are in the own country. I'd be gutted at missing out on a trip somewhere else  EDIT - got Joe90 and Norfolkit the wrong way round. Oops. Not struggling at all, just don't like someone's opinion being presented as an unchallengable fact
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hornet
5,469 posts
119 months
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blugnu said: Now, the Olympics originated in Greece, and they have all the infrastructure to hold a modern Olympics They have infrastructure, but it's in no fit state to host anything without a lot of money being thrown at it.
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richarda0109
140 posts
34 months
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It is a farce What about this issue about who is going to light the flame (Thompson or Redgrave) Personally I'd let Bob Diamond light the f**ker and be done with.
Rgds Richard
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TwigtheWonderkid
6,085 posts
19 months
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blugnu said: Now, the Olympics originated in Greece, and they have all the infrastructure to hold a modern Olympics - they did so on 1996. I don't think they did host it in 96.
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HeatonNorris
1,649 posts
17 months
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jogon said: I remember reading a while ago about us using Barcelona as an example of how to regenerate an area and make the most of it all.
I went there a few years ago and had a walk around the Olympic site and its like a bloody ghost town, the main stadium is crumbling down and paths all overgrown around it. The only thing that still looked in use was the pool and that building was in dire need for a lick of paint. Turned out to be a waste of an afternoon. The same has happened to the Algarve stadium from the Euro football championships. Portugal have no use for a 35k-ish seater stadium on the Algarve, so everything is just getting overgrown and crumbling. It's a shame, as it was a really impressive facility when new.
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Mobile Chicane
14,027 posts
81 months
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Digga said: I saw that. I live in the area, and the temptation to go out on the eve of the race, armed with a can of spray paint, to write the words 'Blair is a c**t' on the road is almost overwhelming.
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Digga
10,898 posts
152 months
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Mobile Chicane said: Digga said: I saw that. I live in the area, and the temptation to go out on the eve of the race, armed with a can of spray paint, to write the words 'Blair is a c**t' on the road is almost overwhelming. You've said it so now you must do it. Those are the rules (that I've arbitrarily just invented to satisfy my own requirements) and you must obey. Anyway, I thought it was de-rigeur for 'proper' cycle race routes to sport graffiti?
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CBR JGWRR
5,079 posts
18 months
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Digga said: You've said it so now you must do it. Those are the rules (that I've arbitrarily just invented to satisfy my own requirements) and you must obey.
Anyway, I thought it was de-rigeur for 'proper' cycle race routes to sport graffiti? Yes, only of a different sort...
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Norfolkit
783 posts
59 months
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Derek Smith said: Norfolkit said: blugnu said: Clearly this Olympics things is a farce. Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. Isn't a forum about opinion? I think it is. I agree 100%, so present your opinions as that, not as statements of fact. "In my opinion this Olympics things is a farce" is fine that's your opinion, don't agree but that's fine. "Clearly this Olympics things is a farce" is not fine, it's not clear to me and it's not my opinion, it's yours (his/hers technically), it was stated as though everyone agreed, I happen not to.
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hidetheelephants
5,598 posts
62 months
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Murph7355 said: 72EuropaTC said: I went to Athens regularly for about 18 months a few months ago. Yes much of the infrastructure is still there - roads, stadia etc. A friend there said that a fair number of the venues have fallen into disuse. Really hope that doesn't happen here. The bits that aren't scheduled to be torn down will still be in the s  thole that is Stratford. So don't bank on London following the lead of others with respect to "legacy". £50m+ spunked on a temporary shooting facility at Woolwich instead of a new facility at Bisley for half that; legacy shmegacy.
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rb5er
4,560 posts
41 months
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So only the Greeks would ever get home advantage? So no other countries get the benefits of hosting the games? So only ever greek youth get to get involved? So everyone from everywhere always has to compete in the Greek climate? Hmm sounds fair.
I'd vote for it if it means we get to host the World Cup every time.
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JuniorD
3,069 posts
92 months
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Norfolkit said: Derek Smith said: Norfolkit said: blugnu said: Clearly this Olympics things is a farce. Says who, you? So nice of you to decide these things for the rest of the World, saves us the bother. Isn't a forum about opinion? I think it is. I agree 100%, so present your opinions as that, not as statements of fact. "In my opinion this Olympics things is a farce" is fine that's your opinion, don't agree but that's fine. "Clearly this Olympics things is a farce" is not fine, it's not clear to me and it's not my opinion, it's yours (his/hers technically), it was stated as though everyone agreed, I happen not to. Get over yourself. It's your failing that you can't infer that a particular statement is someone's opinion.
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