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Jimbeaux said:
rohrl said:
You're forgetting the real victim here. Mr Buckle of G4s has been struggling by on a basic salary of £830,000 before bonus and now he's probably going to lose his job soon with only a pay-off of a million or two to comfort him. It's a bloody disgrace.
I say we get together and build a care package of basic neccessities for him; are you in?rohrl said:
Jimbeaux said:
rohrl said:
You're forgetting the real victim here. Mr Buckle of G4s has been struggling by on a basic salary of £830,000 before bonus and now he's probably going to lose his job soon with only a pay-off of a million or two to comfort him. It's a bloody disgrace.
I say we get together and build a care package of basic neccessities for him; are you in?
I bet they've stayed in worse, and it's not like any Solder signed up expecting a nightly turn-down service but...
It's not the accom that bothers me, I'd guess they'll, in the great tradition of enlisted men, have a moan, crack on and make the best of it.
It's to me a total pisstake to ask the Armed Forces and Police to pick up the slack at very short notice amidst all the cuts they're being forced to make. I would imagine it would have been career / political suicide, but I wouldn't have been too upset if General Sir David Richards (or whoever) finally had enough of all the cuts and the Army being 'go to' fix for any urgent shortfall of man power in the UK and said "sorry Dave, the Army has never said no to any request from it's government, but Afghanistan or The Games, we can't do both we're skint and our people are knackered".
It's not the accom that bothers me, I'd guess they'll, in the great tradition of enlisted men, have a moan, crack on and make the best of it.
It's to me a total pisstake to ask the Armed Forces and Police to pick up the slack at very short notice amidst all the cuts they're being forced to make. I would imagine it would have been career / political suicide, but I wouldn't have been too upset if General Sir David Richards (or whoever) finally had enough of all the cuts and the Army being 'go to' fix for any urgent shortfall of man power in the UK and said "sorry Dave, the Army has never said no to any request from it's government, but Afghanistan or The Games, we can't do both we're skint and our people are knackered".
KrazyIvan said:
And how do you think it would have looked had they been put up in London hotels (bearing mind the massive price hikes currently going on), while other soldier were loosing their jobs? Its a lose/lose situation.
Price hikes have stopped very quickly. A few of our guys stop in London a fair bit, and there appear to be plenty of rooms available at short notice - for nothing worse than the usual ripoff prices.Adrian W said:
waltergti said:
Adrian W said:
And how many hotels would argue with a few hundred solders, when they say we are staying here for nothing,
With the goverment behind them!
Would you work for free?With the goverment behind them!
I do love how people seem to think you could install Portacabins to house 3500 people within 2 weeks. Not only that, but where do you plan to put these portacabins. How is that planning application going to go through?
Then you have the option to Charter a cruise ship...in summer for 6 weeks... at 2 weeks notice.
Or the option to get spaces for 3000 people in London's hotels, that are almost full. Then saying you want the hotel to pay for these at there on expense.
Seriously?
I have worked on site in a lot of places and that would do me fine. It is a bed to sleep on at night, that's all. For at the most 6 weeks.
The place they will sleep is fine.
The issue of G4S f
k up is a separate one, that will cost them dearly, and it has put soldiers at a huge inconvenience. However this is a soldiers job.
Then you have the option to Charter a cruise ship...in summer for 6 weeks... at 2 weeks notice.
Or the option to get spaces for 3000 people in London's hotels, that are almost full. Then saying you want the hotel to pay for these at there on expense.
Seriously?
I have worked on site in a lot of places and that would do me fine. It is a bed to sleep on at night, that's all. For at the most 6 weeks.
The place they will sleep is fine.
The issue of G4S f
k up is a separate one, that will cost them dearly, and it has put soldiers at a huge inconvenience. However this is a soldiers job.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
flotels as used in the oil and gas sector.
Slightly more dignified eh?
troop carrier boats up and down the Thames to drop off etc.
http://www.bibbymaritime.com
Completely OT, but what a brilliant idea.Slightly more dignified eh?
troop carrier boats up and down the Thames to drop off etc.
http://www.bibbymaritime.com
Bill said:
They're soldiers, compared to many places (probably all on deployment) that is luxury.
Have you ever slept on one of those beds?Luxury doesn't even come in to it.
The difference is that when you're on operations, you know full well what to expect. When you come home, you DESERVE a half decent standard of living whilst doing your day-to-day job in your own country. It shouldn't be that much to ask.
I for one would love to see G4S having to pay to put these guys up in their own hotel rooms.
Edited by CrabDan on Wednesday 18th July 23:38
CrabDan said:
Have you ever slept on one of those beds?
Luxury doesn't even come in to it.
The difference is that when you're on operations, you know full well what to expect. When you come home, you DESERVE a half decent standard of living whilst doing your day-to-day job in your own country. It shouldn't be that much to ask.
I for one would love to see G4S having to pay to put these guys up in their own hotel rooms.
I've slept on their predecessor, and would choose the floor given the option Luxury doesn't even come in to it.
The difference is that when you're on operations, you know full well what to expect. When you come home, you DESERVE a half decent standard of living whilst doing your day-to-day job in your own country. It shouldn't be that much to ask.
I for one would love to see G4S having to pay to put these guys up in their own hotel rooms.
You're right, at home they deserve decent accommodation, but they're not at home. Or doing their day to day job. It's a deployment and given the balls up it's been so far they should be glad they're not bivvying in Epping
As people have said putting 3500 people up in London right now isn't easy, and making the G4S grunts give up their hotel rooms would only make them go home (An option the forces guys don't have...)
Some of these soldiers will have recently returned from Afghanistan.
Instead of some much deserved R&R, they are handed a grim bed in a hangar and told to control the crowds of wet, moaning about the long queues (and a million other things besides) people with their screaming kids, sandwiches and Scotch Eggs hidden in their underpants and wearing the wrong Corporate T-shirts.
How long will it be before on of our Army boys has finally had enough and uses his "skills" on a few of them?
Instead of some much deserved R&R, they are handed a grim bed in a hangar and told to control the crowds of wet, moaning about the long queues (and a million other things besides) people with their screaming kids, sandwiches and Scotch Eggs hidden in their underpants and wearing the wrong Corporate T-shirts.
How long will it be before on of our Army boys has finally had enough and uses his "skills" on a few of them?
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