There's room for improvement but it would be on the harsh side to blame either teachers or the education system. The fact that people can go through compulsory schooling and still emerge capable of making bad life decisions is equally down to the lazy selfish instant gratification drive in some people which would survive anything short of electrodes.

You'll forgive me if I ask you to point out the place where I mentioned either teachers or the education system. Perhaps lack of knowledge might fit better, but I actually meant the fact that most of them are too ignorant/ill-educated to get a job which pays them enough to be able to eat properly and/or too ignorant/ill-educated to know how to eat well for less money.

OK I didn't realise your use of 'education' really meant something else or that you weren't referring to the only education such people have had - which was at the hands of teachers in schools - or are ever likely to get (or indeed make any, if minimal, use of).

Clearly it's all my fault for not reading your mind and thinking that education referred to the education these people have had rather than some other education whatever the heck that might be.

BTW is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?

Is there a possiblity in your world that going through the education system could still leave many people uneducated? Merely having access to it does not mean that the information offered is retained.

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Justayellowbadge said:

Derek Smith said:

Justayellowbadge said:

Even as a smoker (well, now ex) it raises my blood pressure a tad...

Smoking raises your blood pressure. It is one of the few things, along with lung capacity, that doesn't revert to normal once you give up.

I'd love to see your sources for that. The complete opposite of what my GP was telling me 2 days ago.