Hacking inquiry - Prosecutions

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Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Dear Santa.

Piers Morgan.

Thanks,

JAYB

Murph7355

37,769 posts

257 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I would be surprised, pleasantly so, if any of these people do time.

rohrl

8,746 posts

146 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
Dear Santa.

Piers Morgan.

Thanks,

JAYB
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Murdoch's lot first then we can move on to Morgan and Dacre.

Mermaid

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21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
Dear Santa.

Piers Morgan.

Thanks,

JAYB
Same cell as Brookes? wink 2 go in..

Mermaid

Original Poster:

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Hearing on August 16th.

rolex

3,112 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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This could be the Sun's headline of the year!

"Goldilocks Gets Porridge"

Murph7355

37,769 posts

257 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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rolex said:
This could be the Sun's headline of the year!

"Goldilocks Gets Porridge"
Isn't she a ginge'?

Jasandjules

69,960 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
I would be surprised, pleasantly so, if any of these people do time.
Well, MPs and Lords have been done and jailed. SO there is hope.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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So, am I the only one wo thinks this is a huge waste of court time and money?


This case is fundamentally about people listening to voicemails in order to glean information to print stories.

Compared to, say, MPs expenses fraud and some aspects of the causes of the financial crisis beginning in 2007/9, this really is small beer.

Still, it distracts the public from the mayhem happening with the economy, government waste, excessive taxes etc.


Derek Smith

45,762 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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johnfm said:
So, am I the only one wo thinks this is a huge waste of court time and money?


This case is fundamentally about people listening to voicemails in order to glean information to print stories.

Compared to, say, MPs expenses fraud and some aspects of the causes of the financial crisis beginning in 2007/9, this really is small beer.

Still, it distracts the public from the mayhem happening with the economy, government waste, excessive taxes etc.
Any other offences you think should not be investigated?

The police have already, for their own reasons, followed you line of thought and ignored the corruption implicit in the offences.

johnfm

13,668 posts

251 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Derek Smith said:
johnfm said:
So, am I the only one wo thinks this is a huge waste of court time and money?


This case is fundamentally about people listening to voicemails in order to glean information to print stories.

Compared to, say, MPs expenses fraud and some aspects of the causes of the financial crisis beginning in 2007/9, this really is small beer.

Still, it distracts the public from the mayhem happening with the economy, government waste, excessive taxes etc.
Any other offences you think should not be investigated?

The police have already, for their own reasons, followed you line of thought and ignored the corruption implicit in the offences.
Only crimes where it is likely that, if not for public furore, there would be reluctance to prosecute due to adequate evidence that ingredients of an offence are present.

HUNDREDS of MPs actions claiming expenses for things that were not wholly, exclusively and necessarily performing their duties as an MP met the tests for offences against the fraud act - yet just a handful of prosecutions.

Digga

40,374 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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johnfm said:
... yet just a handful of prosecutions.
I'm starting to see it the other way around now.

I think 'people' (and the savvy bits of the media are with the curve on this) are pissed off with a lot that is and has been going on. I'd say the zeitgeist is for ensuring positions of power - public or privte - are not abused.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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This is just the beginning, given that hacking can be performed unilaterally by the newspaper.

It will be much more fun when we get to the allegations of bribing police for information. Then it's not just the payer who's in trouble...

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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rohrl said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Dear Santa.

Piers Morgan.

Thanks,

JAYB
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Murdoch's lot first then we can move on to Morgan and Dacre.
Didn't they start arresting the Express staff the other day.

We still have Trinity, Associated, Guardian & Northern & Shell to get through.

Think they have started on Dirty Des the other day.

jbudgie

8,943 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Would be nice to get called up for jury duty on this.biggrinbiggrin

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I don't get the public outpourings of grief for people you've never met, all those Find Maddy posters annoy me. But every time I see that interview with Milly Dowlers mum and dad where they describe how they checked her answerphone messages and assumed because one or more had been deleted, that she must have deleted them and therefore be alive, I think that the people that did that are scraping the bottom of humanity.

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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johnfm said:
So, am I the only one wo thinks this is a huge waste of court time and money?


This case is fundamentally about people listening to voicemails in order to glean information to print stories.

Compared to, say, MPs expenses fraud and some aspects of the causes of the financial crisis beginning in 2007/9, this really is small beer.

Still, it distracts the public from the mayhem happening with the economy, government waste, excessive taxes etc.
You've been banging this drum since all this came about, do you have a vested interest? Are you a PI? A journalist? You seem to be protesting about it a little too much to be a bystander. Just curious.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Oh this will be fun.

wollowizard

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Justaye:Dllowbadge said:
Dear Santa.

Piers Morgan.

Thanks,

JAYB
He could save a lot of time on prezzies this year and get us all this.

Steffan

10,362 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
I would be surprised, pleasantly so, if any of these people do time.
I think you will be surprised. Criminal judges in conspiracy cases are razor sharp in preventing obfuscation and the " It was not me Guv" approach. I think everyone who was directly involved in this utterly disgusting abuse of privacy and justice who is charged, will serve time. Particularly the Editors authorising the payments, hacking and disgraceful actions of the field workers who did the actual hacking.

Modern computer systems make covering up very difficult. Wiped discs can be recreated and frequently are in such trials. Look at the latest city insider trading trial. It was the computer records that did for them. Despite wiping. That is where Rebecca Wade and Co will go down. Good.

Murdoch and his son were much further away from the sharp end and I would be much less certain of any action there. It is not a coincidence that Mr Murdoch has suddenly resigned from the board and his son left a while ago. I do think they may escape any proceedings. We may have to be content with that.