Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help

Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help

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joe_90

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4,206 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I can imagine Bliar is having one of his sweaty shirt moments right now. I'd be surprised if, when push came to shove, there are not those within the banking industry with enough dirt on his finances to drag him into it.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Digga said:
I can imagine Bliar is having one of his sweaty shirt moments right now. I'd be surprised if, when push came to shove, there are not those within the banking industry with enough dirt on his finances to drag him into it.
1000% this.

It can be no coincidence that he is trying to get back into politics right at the time that his crimes are about to come under scrutiny.


0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Great. Let's hang him instead.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
This, if nothing else it will raise the national spirits a little further biggrin

As for dirt on him, I suspect he's got himself pretty well covered

jet_noise

5,659 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Dear KI,

KrazyIvan said:
As for dirt on him, I suspect he's got himself pretty well covered
From top to toe, you'd think he'd take a bath biggrin

regards,
Jet

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Tony Blair says something most Conservative's and PH'ers agree with and you want to hang him?

Interesting smile

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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What's the last thing he said got to do with it?

ukwill

8,918 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Tony Blair says something most Conservative's and PH'ers agree with and you want to hang him?

Interesting smile
Tony Blair says something Jamie Dimon, his boss, instructs him to.

otolith

56,279 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Blair had many faults, but stupidity and ideological correctness were never amongst them. That's why the Left of the Labour party have always despised him more than the Tories ever did. It's no surprise that he sees the truth on this issue, anyone with any sense sees it, the only question raised is what his angle is in saying so.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
Good plan.

I do find Tony Blair fantastically entertaining these days. He has elevated himself to such a degree that he genuinely has no apparent sense of his own absurdity, or the contempt that so many people hold toward him.

It is bloody funny. And to think he converted to Catholicism so he could knuckle down and seek redemption. He is a deliciously tragic figure.


Edited by toppstuff on Tuesday 24th July 17:52

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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toppstuff said:
...I do find Tony Blair fantastically entertaining these days. He has elevated himself to such a degree that he genuinely has no apparent sense of his own absurdity, or the contempt that so many people hold toward him.

It bloody funny. And to think he converted to Catholicism so he could knuckle down and seek redemption. He is a deliciously tragic figure.
& Untouchable, he thinks.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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toppstuff said:
He is a deliciously tragic figure.
I don't think he feels particularly tragic, earning £20m a year, flying around the world by private jet and enjoying his various homes, as well as the largesse of the world's rich.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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otolith said:
Blair had many faults, but stupidity and ideological correctness were never amongst them. That's why the Left of the Labour party have always despised him more than the Tories ever did. It's no surprise that he sees the truth on this issue, anyone with any sense sees it, the only question raised is what his angle is in saying so.
If I remember rightly even Mrs Thatcher took a liking to Tony Blair, commenting on how she saw no socialism in him despite it being present in his party. Blair has always been to the right of the Labour Party, he wanted to abolish Clause IV before he even became leader. He is a free market centrist who would've joined the Tory party had they been out of office for 18 years instead. He could've won either of them an election. Labour accepted him because after 18 years they just wanted to win, they never really liked him.

The man is clearly not an idiot, he is an expert politician and very clever. Of course the fact he could've fitted into either main party does demonstrate his slipperyness but by 1997 the public wanted a sort-of Tory Government without having to vote for the Tories and that's what he offered them. I do wonder what he could've achieved without the 'Old Labour' old guard of Brown, Prescott etc alongside him because keeping them happy can't have been easy. Brown wanted him out from day one, for instance.

Puggit

48,502 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
I can't believe this wasn't the first answer.

Soovy and Digga, get out!

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
If I remember rightly even Mrs Thatcher took a liking to Tony Blair, commenting on how she saw no socialism in him despite it being present in his party. Blair has always been to the right of the Labour Party, he wanted to abolish Clause IV before he even became leader. He is a free market centrist who would've joined the Tory party had they been out of office for 18 years instead. He could've won either of them an election. Labour accepted him because after 18 years they just wanted to win, they never really liked him.

The man is clearly not an idiot, he is an expert politician and very clever. Of course the fact he could've fitted into either main party does demonstrate his slipperyness but by 1997 the public wanted a sort-of Tory Government without having to vote for the Tories and that's what he offered them. I do wonder what he could've achieved without the 'Old Labour' old guard of Brown, Prescott etc alongside him because keeping them happy can't have been easy. Brown wanted him out from day one, for instance.
Seems appropriate that Tony Blair PM was an anagram of 'Im Tory Plan B' then

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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As ever Tony is wrong.

"Should we kill bankers? I don’t mean as vengeance for their past misdeeds. Instead, I mean that, if banks are to remain in the private sector, the death penalty should be part of the new regulatory regime.
The problem with any regulation is that regulators are always at an informational disadvantage; outsiders know less than insiders. There is therefore a danger that breaches of the new regulatory code - excessive risk-taking - will not be identified quickly; as Warren Buffett said, it’s only after the tide’s gone out that you can see who’s been swimming naked.
This means that if the penalties for breaches are low, bank bosses might have an incentive to ignore regulations - as they discount punishments by the probability of getting away with their crimes. To prevent this, punishments must be huge.

What I’m advocating here is a system of perfect deterrence, as discussed by Saul Smilansky in 10 Moral Paradoxes; if the punishment is high enough, no crime will occur.

What’s more, the death penalty will focus bosses’ minds. As Chesley Sullenberger showed us, when a man faces the likelihood of death, he finds a way to do a great job. The notion that bank bosses require big bonuses to incentivize them rather than the threat of punishments was always a self-serving fiction, not a realistic psychological proposition.

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thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
If I remember rightly even Mrs Thatcher took a liking to Tony Blair, commenting on how she saw no socialism in him despite it being present in his party. Blair has always been to the right of the Labour Party, he wanted to abolish Clause IV before he even became leader. He is a free market centrist who would've joined the Tory party had they been out of office for 18 years instead. He could've won either of them an election. Labour accepted him because after 18 years they just wanted to win, they never really liked him.

The man is clearly not an idiot, he is an expert politician and very clever. Of course the fact he could've fitted into either main party does demonstrate his slipperyness but by 1997 the public wanted a sort-of Tory Government without having to vote for the Tories and that's what he offered them. I do wonder what he could've achieved without the 'Old Labour' old guard of Brown, Prescott etc alongside him because keeping them happy can't have been easy. Brown wanted him out from day one, for instance.
Lets face it at the present moment he is to the right of the current tory party leader

Jasandjules

69,960 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
Instead?

As well.

Along with Gordon Brown who also led us to financial disaster.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
Instead?

As well.

Along with Gordon Brown who also led us to financial disaster.
And Ed Balls.

And his awful wife.

And that Harriet Harpy person.

And anyone who was in Blair's cabinet and turned the other way when he did his dodgy deeds.

And there should be a special place in hell reserved for Alastair Campbell.