Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help

Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help

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martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Instead?

As well.

Along with Gordon Brown who also led us to financial disaster.
I don't think Blair had as much to do with the public spending as Brown, we all know Gordon never told him what was in the budget. Although it's curious as to why Blair never replaced Brown with somebody else, given the fact they never liked each other. Presumably Gordo had enough backing from the left side of the party to make life incredibly uncomfortable for Tony if he were to do so.

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Tony Blair says something most Conservative's and PH'ers agree with and you want to hang him?

Interesting smile
Tony Blair only says things that are in Tony Blair's interest. I don't pay any attention to him.

The man needs a damn good ignoring so he can't do any more damage to this country.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0a said:
Tony Blair only says things that are in Tony Blair's interest. I don't pay any attention to him.

The man needs a damn good ignoring so he can't do any more damage to this country.
Say what you want about Blair but at least he'll be remembered in 25 years time. David Cameron will be a low scoring answer to something on Pointless and one of those pub quiz questions.

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Say what you want about Blair but at least he'll be remembered in 25 years time. David Cameron will be a low scoring answer to something on Pointless and one of those pub quiz questions.
I thought he was Thatcher mk2 and would be remembered for fully privatising the NHS and victimising the disabled (perhaps I have read too many comments on guardian.co.uk)?

You are quite right, Blair will be remembered though.

Otispunkmeyer

12,619 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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toppstuff said:
And Ed Balls.

And his awful wife.

And that Harriet Harpy person.

And anyone who was in Blair's cabinet and turned the other way when he did his dodgy deeds.

And there should be a special place in hell reserved for Alastair Campbell.
He was on HIGNFY earlier this year (series 43 show 8 I think) and it was bloody good fun. I reckon he shouldnt go to hell, but go to HIGNFY where Hislop and Merton can rip him a new one over and over for eternity.

Otispunkmeyer

12,619 posts

156 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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toppstuff said:
And Ed Balls.

And his awful wife.

And that Harriet Harpy person.

And anyone who was in Blair's cabinet and turned the other way when he did his dodgy deeds.

And there should be a special place in hell reserved for Alastair Campbell.
He was on HIGNFY earlier this year (series 43 show 8 I think) and it was bloody good fun. I reckon he shouldnt go to hell, but go to HIGNFY where Hislop and Merton can rip him a new one over and over for eternity.

Derek Smith

45,755 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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0a said:
I thought he was Thatcher mk2 and would be remembered for fully privatising the NHS and victimising the disabled (perhaps I have read too many comments on guardian.co.uk)?

You are quite right, Blair will be remembered though.
I remember the time the saddle support broke on my mountain bike. The saddle pivoted violently, dipping down at the rear and, regrettably, tilting up at the front just at the time the bike hit a peak whole in the ground movingly downwards.

I remember the pain quite clearly. I also remember rolling in the dirt by the side of the bridleway holding onto parts of my body which felt as if they are on fire.

Even then it was not quite so bad as having Blair as PM.

The discussion as to whether Blair was right wing/left-wing/centrist ignores his main feature. He had no beliefs as such and just went where the wind blew him. Even his conversion to Catholicism was typical of him in the sense that he left it until he felt it would not harm what popularity he had left.

Blair's beliefs centre on Blair.

Gaitskill was in some ways similar. He looked to politics as a career and shows Labour because there would be fewer obstructions for him. He though at least had beliefs.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Zod said:
I don't think he feels particularly tragic, earning £20m a year, flying around the world by private jet and enjoying his various homes, as well as the largesse of the world's rich.
How much tax does he pay? And does he make/receive cash payments?

birdcage

2,841 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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The sad thing is I reckon he could be PM again if he stood right now..

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help.

Nothing to do with his son Euen recently working at investment bank Morgan Stanley by any chance?

Personally if I never hear the name Tony Blair ever again it will too soon.


Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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birdcage said:
The sad thing is I reckon he could be PM again if he stood right now..
If he stood for the American Presidency, as a Republican candidate, he'd beat the incumbent. smile


Puggit

48,501 posts

249 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Morningside said:
Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help.

Nothing to do with his son Euen recently working at investment bank Morgan Stanley by any chance?

Personally if I never hear the name Tony Blair ever again it will too soon.
Apparently he's quit/ting so he can work in politics. He knows where the money is...

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Tony Blair says something most Conservative's and PH'ers agree with and you want to hang him?

Interesting smile
very smile

Can we go after people whos companies mnake 12 million but have 11million worth of out goings next?

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Puggit said:
Morningside said:
Tony Blair: hanging bankers won't help.

Nothing to do with his son Euen recently working at investment bank Morgan Stanley by any chance?

Personally if I never hear the name Tony Blair ever again it will too soon.
Apparently he's quit/ting so he can work in politics. He knows where the money is...
Be very afraid as they move and shuffle the ranks to allow him to rise.

I give it 5 years before he becomes a household name.

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Tony Blair says something most Conservative's and PH'ers agree with and you want to hang him?

Interesting smile
Hearing things from a self serving smarmy knob jockey adds no credence to anything. Some people here are as interested in the substance behind the message as the message itself. And in that respect Mr Blair is vacuous.

He could tell me grass is green and I'd want to go and check for myself (and then go and test myself for colour blindness just in case).

His endorsement of some of those messages does more harm than good. Wouldn't surprise me if the anti-banker brigade had paid him to say them smile

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
Hearing things from a self serving smarmy knob jockey adds no credence to anything. Some people here are as interested in the substance behind the message as the message itself.
Who are you talking about? David Cameron? biggrin



Edited by martin84 on Tuesday 24th July 23:35

baz1985

3,598 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Tony Blair could have won three terms with either party (Lab or Con, not the Lib Dems obviously!). History will probably judge him as a top 'triffic' tier 1 politician. Regardless of whether he: 'messed up'/bankrupted the country/ is seen a despicable character/ usual war crime/ greed jibes and all that hyperbole etc.....a lot of folk did very well in those ten years of his premiership.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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toppstuff said:
Jasandjules said:
0000 said:
Great. Let's hang him instead.
Instead?

As well.

Along with Gordon Brown who also led us to financial disaster.
And Ed Balls.

And his awful wife.

And that Harriet Harpy person.

And anyone who was in Blair's cabinet and turned the other way when he did his dodgy deeds.

And there should be a special place in hell reserved for Alastair Campbell.
Surely we could save ourselves a lot of time and effort by naming politicans we dont want to hang ??? answers on a small post card sorry stamp please!!!

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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powerstroke said:
Surely we could save ourselves a lot of time and effort by naming politicans we dont want to hang ??? answers on a small post card sorry stamp please!!!
I'd keep Boris. For a laugh.

baz1985 said:
Tony Blair could have won three terms with either party
I agree he could've won with either Party, he may have stayed in office for longer with the Conservative's I feel. However he was aided by a lack of real opposition. The Conservative's were a mess for quite a few years as they went through William 'Dead Parrot' Hague, the Quiet Man and Dracula. During the early years of Labour, the voters just saw a bunch of out of touch cronies arguing with each other on the opposition benches as the infighting (which proved to be Major's downfall) went unfixed as a string of unfit leaders led to a lack of coherant message.

Blair did very well to win three terms but there was also an element of 'why bother voting for the other guys?' about it.

Murph7355

37,768 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Who are you talking about? David Cameron? biggrin



Edited by martin84 on Tuesday 24th July 23:35
There are something like 650 of the current mob who might be caught by that definition.

Tony Blair makes them look like rank amateurs.