But There Are No Jobs
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Says who?
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
the place where I work recently had 120 applicants for a customer service advisor role paying £19k a year. I was chatting to a woman in HR about it and she said four years ago a similar vacancy attracted around 30 applicants and two years ago they got 80 applicants.
there may well be plenty of jobs, but there are plenty more jobless
there may well be plenty of jobs, but there are plenty more jobless
Tonberry said:
Says who?
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
How do you know the jobs are all genuine as it's quite common for one job to be advertised multiple times and in many places, some being speculative information gathering exercises. Also why do you assume the unemployed are all looking for minimum wage jobs?I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
For a lot of people it is not possible to work in a minimum wage position as the childcare costs they would incur eat it all up, hence they remain unemployed while they look for a better paid job where the figures will actually stack up.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 25th July 20:40
There are a lot of jobs out there, that's true. However what we've got at the moment is a situation where experienced and able candidates are unemployed. The employers know that and are waiting for exactly the right candidate to fall into their laps - that means anyone looking to get a bit of a leg-up is out of luck.
Tonberry said:
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
Are you on drugs? There can't be many people with any kind of training and qualifications that opt for the dole as a better paid option.Tonberry said:
Says who?
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
Go away, do some proper research, put yourself in the shoes of someone with no skills or irrelevant skills for the vacancies near them, someone who hasn't the family support (or has too many other responsibilities) to move for work, someone who lacks the ability to approach employers in the right manner or maybe has no work history, then when you've done all that come back and comment on how easy it is to find a job. I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
I know I could find work by the end of next week if I needed to, and I have the contacts to do it without needing to rely on a job centre vacancies board. Sadly the vast majority of the long term unemployed people I know don't have the luxury of friends who own businesses and contacts in companies where their skills would be valued.
Tonberry said:
Says who?
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
In our place most of he "standard" admin jobs have 200 applicants for every job.I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
Tonberry said:
Says who?
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
I often browse the job market when I have an idle moment or two, and the amount of positions out there are staggering.
Practically anything you could ever dream of doing.
I've long said that those on the dole are work shy barstewards and I stick by that statement.
I'm talking basic minimum wage jobs here too which I imagine the majority of the unemployed will be looking for.
And for those who are 'holding out' for a position in their chosen field....maybe it's time you sucked it up and at least started attempting to put some food on the table for your children.
Like many of you, my job /current location / background (single mum - council house) sees me rubbing shoulders on a daily basis with those at the bottom of the pile and those considered to be at the top of society.
Rightly or wrongly, I also like to make sweeping generalisations, whether based on fact or opinion (as does everyone), though I do not include those on disability (genuinely disabled) within my example.
I know family and friends who are recent grads who will not take any job they feel beneath them (i.e. minimum wage).
My step father is a self employed plasterer struggling for work who will only look for work in his trade. He has bills to pay. How long will it be before he takes that role at pizza hut as a delivery driver?
There are many other examples I could give you which fit into the above two one way or another.
Yes, everyones situation is different but a lot people don't even seem to be trying.
My take on the 'brown-skinned', disabled, foreigners? If you knew me you wouldn't ask such a question.
Instead of calling me a troll, lets here the other side of the story.
Rightly or wrongly, I also like to make sweeping generalisations, whether based on fact or opinion (as does everyone), though I do not include those on disability (genuinely disabled) within my example.
I know family and friends who are recent grads who will not take any job they feel beneath them (i.e. minimum wage).
My step father is a self employed plasterer struggling for work who will only look for work in his trade. He has bills to pay. How long will it be before he takes that role at pizza hut as a delivery driver?
There are many other examples I could give you which fit into the above two one way or another.
Yes, everyones situation is different but a lot people don't even seem to be trying.
My take on the 'brown-skinned', disabled, foreigners? If you knew me you wouldn't ask such a question.
Instead of calling me a troll, lets here the other side of the story.
OK, I am a customer service manager. Well, I was. I returned to UK from abroad in April 2010 because my aging Mother needed looking after. I started applying for every job I thought I could do, up to 10 applications a day some days.
I finally got an offer from British Gas to work in their domestic service & repair call centre as a CS agent in the October.
6 months searching and applying, 2 grades lower, 50% less pay than my previous role.
I was made redundant from that role in March this year. I am currently working a 6 month secondment to BG Business. That will finish at the end of September and is highly unlikely to be renewed as BGB has also announced a large number of redundancies.
I have been sending out a similar number of applications as before since March. I have had one interview.
You don't have a f
king clue, you tosser.
I finally got an offer from British Gas to work in their domestic service & repair call centre as a CS agent in the October.
6 months searching and applying, 2 grades lower, 50% less pay than my previous role.
I was made redundant from that role in March this year. I am currently working a 6 month secondment to BG Business. That will finish at the end of September and is highly unlikely to be renewed as BGB has also announced a large number of redundancies.
I have been sending out a similar number of applications as before since March. I have had one interview.
You don't have a f
king clue, you tosser.what utter bks, a quick look at a job website will show you a number of jobs.
then check what they stipulate the requirements are - the ammount of jobs paying 2k over minimum wage asks for the candidate to have a bloody degree in a relevant area and most of these jobs you wouldnt have required anything other than a O level education in years gone by!!
Totally and utterly taking the piss IMO.
ks, a quick look at a job website will show you a number of jobs.then check what they stipulate the requirements are - the ammount of jobs paying 2k over minimum wage asks for the candidate to have a bloody degree in a relevant area and most of these jobs you wouldnt have required anything other than a O level education in years gone by!!
Totally and utterly taking the piss IMO.
Edited by hedgefinder on Wednesday 25th July 22:08
How many jobs there are depends on where you are to some degree. I ran a recruitment business for for a few years and I have to say a lot of the people who I spoke to who were unemployed not because they couldn't find a job, they couldn't find the one they wanted.
When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
Caulkhead said:
How many jobs there are depends on where you are to some degree. I ran a recruitment business for for a few years and I have to say a lot of the people who I spoke to who were unemployed not because they couldn't find a job, they couldn't find the one they wanted.
When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
Nobody will give me that kind of a job these days. I know, I've applied.When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
To hear the real story you need to go and talk to people, your sample size is very small and your knowledge of the size of the issue and diverse range of people affected by it is clearly limited.
Lazy people exist that is true, but they do not make up the majority of people who are in receipt of Employment Support Allowance. Likewise some of Incapacity Benefits are more than capable of work, but making a generalisation that all people in receipt of IB are idle would be crass and offensive.
Try and apply for work to see what it is like at the minute, or better still gather together a group of underachievers with minor criminal records, no qualifications and few life skills who live in an area that was run-down before the recession began and try to tell them there are hundreds of jobs out there for them. Extra points if you can design a magic solution that will help that group of people who have little in the way of hope out of their benefit trap.
Lazy people exist that is true, but they do not make up the majority of people who are in receipt of Employment Support Allowance. Likewise some of Incapacity Benefits are more than capable of work, but making a generalisation that all people in receipt of IB are idle would be crass and offensive.
Try and apply for work to see what it is like at the minute, or better still gather together a group of underachievers with minor criminal records, no qualifications and few life skills who live in an area that was run-down before the recession began and try to tell them there are hundreds of jobs out there for them. Extra points if you can design a magic solution that will help that group of people who have little in the way of hope out of their benefit trap.
Pothole said:
Caulkhead said:
How many jobs there are depends on where you are to some degree. I ran a recruitment business for for a few years and I have to say a lot of the people who I spoke to who were unemployed not because they couldn't find a job, they couldn't find the one they wanted.
When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
Nobody will give me that kind of a job these days. I know, I've applied.When I left a job in the mid-nineties and the new job fell through I swapped my £500 suit for overalls and delivered plant equipment and drove a bailiff round for months for £7.00 an hour until I found the opportunity I wanted. The key to avoiding unemployment IMHO is flexibility a lack of ego.
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