Just saw Blair on the tv ref the Olympics.....

[-Pete-]

Countdown said:

And yet he never lost an election whilst leader of the Labour party,.

Neither did I, as it happens.

[HeatonNorris]

-Pete- said:

Tens of lies told before, during and after his reign
Hundreds of thousands killed with his blessing
Almost a million people protested against his & the halfwit's war
Tens of million pounds raked in whilst supposedly representing the working classes

History will write him down as one of the worst we ever had

And the current lot are doing so well, too.

We've had running battles in the streets between rioters and the police, whilst the Government 'cuts' have seen Tory spending exceed Labour spending!

[-Pete-]

HeatonNorris said:

-Pete- said:

Tens of lies told before, during and after his reign
Hundreds of thousands killed with his blessing
Almost a million people protested against his & the halfwit's war
Tens of million pounds raked in whilst supposedly representing the working classes

History will write him down as one of the worst we ever had

And the current lot are doing so well, too.

We've had running battles in the streets between rioters and the police, whilst the Government 'cuts' have seen Tory spending exceed Labour spending!

Why would you defend someone who has helped kill hundreds of thousands of people while lining his own pocket to the tune of 10's of millions of pounds? Not exactly 'Labour-party', is it? Or did I miss the point of the so-called left wing party?

[HeatonNorris]

-Pete- said:

hy would you defend someone who has helped kill hundreds of thousands of people while lining his own pocket to the tune of 10's of millions of pounds? Not exactly 'Labour-party', is it? Or did I miss the point of the so-called left wing party?

I just get fed up of some of the political bias - the Tories can do no wrong, whilst people are posting all kinds of derogatory comments about Labour, despite much of it being incredibly blinkered.

The fact is that all parties are as bad as each other - Blair / Cameron, largely interchangeable!

Don't forget that Blair may have taken us to war, but the Tories fully supported him and have hardly run away from war-mongering themselves over the years!

[-Pete-]

HeatonNorris said:

-Pete- said:

hy would you defend someone who has helped kill hundreds of thousands of people while lining his own pocket to the tune of 10's of millions of pounds? Not exactly 'Labour-party', is it? Or did I miss the point of the so-called left wing party?

I just get fed up of some of the political bias - the Tories can do no wrong, whilst people are posting all kinds of derogatory comments about Labour, despite much of it being incredibly blinkered.

The fact is that all parties are as bad as each other - Blair / Cameron, largely interchangeable!

Don't forget that Blair may have taken us to war, but the Tories fully supported him and have hardly run away from war-mongering themselves over the years!

This isn't about the labour party (or the equally questionable coalition now in government) it's about Tony "I passionately believe" Blair, who lied for his own gratification and personal gain, backed George W Halfwit and ducked out at exactly the right moment to leave Gordon Brown confused in the headlights of the oncoming crash. It's not the party, it's the individual.

50 years from now, he won't be celebrated as the UK, or Labour's finest...

[Countdown]

-Pete- said:

50 years from now, he won't be celebrated as the UK, or Labour's finest...

Outside the confines of PH he isn't hated NOW, let alone 50 years from now. I would suggest that more people hate Thatcher than Blair.

[HeatonNorris]

-Pete- said:

his isn't about the labour party (or the equally questionable coalition now in government) it's about Tony "I passionately believe" Blair, who lied for his own gratification and personal gain, backed George W Halfwit and ducked out at exactly the right moment to leave Gordon Brown confused in the headlights of the oncoming crash. It's not the party, it's the individual.

50 years from now, he won't be celebrated as the UK, or Labour's finest...

Well, he's no worse or better than any number of leaders from both sides of the political spectrum - many on here worship Thatcher, but she destroyed the lives of millions with her privatisation schemes - something which is still costing the country money to this day in benefit payments and ludicrous utility bill prices / rail / bus fares etc.

I have many personal reasons to hate Thatcher for what she did, but I don't feel the need to post some kind of fictional "I had a natural reaction to swear at the TV when I saw her" on the internet, to buy me some kind of 'cool factor'.

(I've posted spoiled papers in the last few elections as I can't see any reason to vote for any of the current parties, before anyone accuses me of being a 'leftie')

[-Pete-]

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, however wrong
Good night to you both...

[Countdown]

-Pete- said:

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, however wrong
Good night to you both...

Night night

[rumple]

Countdown said:

-Pete- said:

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, however wrong
Good night to you both...

Night night

Sleep tight

[torque2much]

-Pete- said:

Tens of lies told before, during and after his reign
Hundreds of thousands killed with his blessing
Almost a million people protested against his & the halfwit's war
Tens of million pounds raked in whilst supposedly representing the working classes

History will write him down as one of the worst we ever had

I agree, The Biggest Terrorist ever. Called War upon a country which had naf all to do with him. BUSH AND BLAIR now both took there big cheques and vanished.

[RESSE]

torque2much said:

I agree, The Biggest Terrorist ever. Called War upon a country which had naf all to do with him. BUSH AND BLAIR now both took there big cheques and vanished.

Their big cheques etc etc

[KENZ]

torque2much said:

-Pete- said:

Tens of lies told before, during and after his reign
Hundreds of thousands killed with his blessing
Almost a million people protested against his & the halfwit's war
Tens of million pounds raked in whilst supposedly representing the working classes

History will write him down as one of the worst we ever had

I agree, The Biggest Terrorist ever. Called War upon a country which had naf all to do with him. BUSH AND BLAIR now both took there big cheques and vanished.

What a lot if drivel. Gadaffi killed more of his own people than any war did. Weapons of mass destruction, I firmly believe they did have them as ourselves and allies like USA and France would have provided them during the fight against the spread of communism.

[powerstroke]

HeatonNorris said:

-Pete- said:

hy would you defend someone who has helped kill hundreds of thousands of people while lining his own pocket to the tune of 10's of millions of pounds? Not exactly 'Labour-party', is it? Or did I miss the point of the so-called left wing party?

I just get fed up of some of the political bias - the Tories can do no wrong, whilst people are posting all kinds of derogatory comments about Labour, despite much of it being incredibly blinkered.

The fact is that all parties are as bad as each other - Blair / Cameron, largely interchangeable!

Don't forget that Blair may have taken us to war, but the Tories fully supported him and have hardly run away from war-mongering themselves over the years!

I wont vote for either labour party or their clegites

[colonel c]

HeatonNorris said:

Don't forget that Blair may have taken us to war, but the Tories fully supported him and have hardly run away from war-mongering themselves over the years!

Can anyone seriously believe that any Tory PM would not have supported Bush over Iraq.

[martin84]

-Pete- said:

History will write him down as one of the worst we ever had

Well it hasn't yet.

Nice to see there's no anti-Blair bias here

I'd still take him over Cameron. At least Blair provokes emotion, Cameron makes you feel dead inside.

[martin84]

colonel c said:

Can anyone seriously believe that any Tory PM would not have supported Bush over Iraq.

A 'close relationship' bordering on overly chummy is not something a Labour PM alone is guilty of. Thatcher would've jumped off a bridge if Reagan told her to.

Of course a Tory PM would've backed Bush all the way. The Iraq war was happening irrespective of which party was in office.

[Puggit]

martin84 said:

colonel c said:

Can anyone seriously believe that any Tory PM would not have supported Bush over Iraq.

A 'close relationship' bordering on overly chummy is not something a Labour PM alone is guilty of. Thatcher would've jumped off a bridge if Reagan told her to.

Of course a Tory PM would've backed Bush all the way. The Iraq war was happening irrespective of which party was in office.

But maybe a Tory PM would have been more honest about he reasons. Of ourse, we'll never know....

[Countdown]

Puggit said:

But maybe a Tory PM would have been more honest about he reasons. Of ourse, we'll never know....

If Blair had been honest there would have been no reason to go to war. Blair lied specifically in order to go to war.

[martin84]

Countdown said:

If Blair had been honest there would have been no reason to go to war. Blair lied specifically in order to go to war.

The reason to go to war was clear; Dubya's father entered into the Gulf War - a war we took part in under a Conservative Government I might add - and never got to finish off Saddam. His son had a massive bee in his bonnet to the point of ruining many peace agreements with North Korea arranged by the Clinton administration by declaring them part of an 'axis of evil.' Dubya was always going start the Iraq war - the easiest single party state to take down - and the UK was always going to follow.

Plenty of the sweary mouth-frothy rage towards Blair on here is childish because we all know a Tory PM would've ended up doing the same thing and we all know you wouldn't be sat here foaming with anger if he did. Another confusing part of PH's Blair hate is the fact the genuine left also hate him, he'd be more suited to leading the Tory party than the current Tory prime minister.