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Blib
20,669 posts
66 months
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Digga said: P never used to be a problem, but with discussions about the dollar and, already, some major currencies circumventing the greenback for forex, the world is a different place.
Then there's the issue of them playing "Team America World Police" and the need to engage constructively with the rest of the planet becomes more pressing. All IMHO. More pressing for a President, perhaps. Of little consequence to the man on the Springfield, Montana omnibus, I reckon.
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Aids
206 posts
36 months
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I`ve been to the USA many times since 1988. Most Americans I`ve had dealings with care about their children`s education, crime and employment. Any presidentail candidate who can deliver on any or all of these issues will get a ticket to the Oval Office, just going by personal experience. This is not my opinion, by the way!
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audidoody
5,185 posts
125 months
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Did he have a passport before this trip?
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Marf
22,907 posts
110 months
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audidoody said: Did he have a passport before this trip? Chortle
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Alfa numeric
2,414 posts
48 months
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Aids said: I`ve been to the USA many times since 1988. Most Americans I`ve had dealings with care about their children`s education, crime and employment. Any presidentail candidate who can deliver on any or all of these issues will get a ticket to the Oval Office, just going by personal experience. This is not my opinion, by the way! To be fair the same could be said about the typical British voter. This trip hasn't been the PR success Romney was hoping for though- wonder how it's been reported in the US?
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Guybrush
2,501 posts
75 months
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I wonder if our 'opinions' are being manipulated by the left-leaning areas of the UK media.
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Aids
206 posts
36 months
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Alfa numeric said: To be fair the same could be said about the typical British voter.
This trip hasn't been the PR success Romney was hoping for though- wonder how it's been reported in the US? http://theweek.com/article/index/231178/mitt-romneys-london-gaffes-5-ways-they-hurt-him This seems to be an American publication!
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Iceman82
1,231 posts
105 months
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I have read that the US press is reporting that his trip hasn't been wildly successfull, however, how much does the average US voter really care if he gaffs in the UK and Poland?
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Marf
22,907 posts
110 months
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Guybrush said: I wonder if our 'opinions' are being manipulated by the left-leaning areas of the UK media. Depends how weak minded "our" minds are. 
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stevejh
593 posts
73 months
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Guybrush said: I wonder if our 'opinions' are being manipulated by the left-leaning areas of the UK media. And the mostly pro Obama US media (Fox being the obvious exception).
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muffinmenace
640 posts
57 months
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Aids said: Is that website the equivalent of the guardian covering the Conservative election campaign? 
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Alfa numeric
2,414 posts
48 months
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Iceman82 said: I have read that the US press is reporting that his trip hasn't been wildly successfull, however, how much does the average US voter really care if he gaffs in the UK and Poland? And IsraelI'm no fan of Romney but to be fair to him I think that the media picked up on a few early thoughless statements and decided that they'd cover it as a "gaffe-prone trip". Hence his Press Secretary's ill-advised outburst in Poland. He's not helped himself though by refusing to take questions, which has irritated the media and probably spurred them on.
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Aids
206 posts
36 months
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muffinmenace said: Is that website the equivalent of the guardian covering the Conservative election campaign? Yeah you`re probably 100% spot on! 
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Rollcage
9,232 posts
61 months
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His views as an individual are probably all of the above, but they will become somewhat diluted if he gets to sit in the Big Chair.
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stevejh
593 posts
73 months
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Alfa numeric said: Iceman82 said: I have read that the US press is reporting that his trip hasn't been wildly successfull, however, how much does the average US voter really care if he gaffs in the UK and Poland? And IsraelI'm no fan of Romney but to be fair to him I think that the media picked up on a few early thoughless statements and decided that they'd cover it as a "gaffe-prone trip". Hence his Press Secretary's ill-advised outburst in Poland. He's not helped himself though by refusing to take questions, which has irritated the media and probably spurred them on. He has actually been quite canny so far in not responding to the pro Obama US medias every criticism because his advisers realised that once he started commenting on everything the press said about him and his past then the press just wouldn't let go but if he kept quiet then the story would go away much quicker. It was working but this foreign trip has given the press something to get their teeth in to even though Romney's 'gaffes' have really been nothing of the sort. At least he has visited Israel, something which Obama has failed to do.
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Victor McDade
3,681 posts
51 months
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bobbylondonuk said: Foreign policy is not a big deal..everyone knows the world courts the USA...so its not really a big deal for the presidential election. Maybe they should do then because wars can't be fought cheaply and foreign policy is now very much interlinked with economics at home. Some estimates put the American costs for the Iraq war at several trillion dollars. That would pay off a fair chunk of American public debt.
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jeff m2
961 posts
20 months
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Bush Jr and Obama have not set the bar very high. Concerns are Jobs and economy. The democrats have lots of money so they can afford negative attacks even this early. Obama had a democratic majority in both the house and senate when he was elected and had the chance to get a lot accomplished. Instead he "used up" that advantage over his pet project (healthcare) and lost his majority in the house. Uphill struggle since. Seems to have never stopped whining that everything is the fault of Bush Jr. I doubt Mitt is an idiot as portrayed by MSNBC  If he is then I'm having a labotomy so I can amass a fortune similar to his. ETA Clinton was a Democrat who didn't have the advantage of a democratic majority but was able to realise he was just President in a democracy and not Emperor like our current guy.
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Mark Benson
2,541 posts
138 months
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stevejh said: Alfa numeric said: Iceman82 said: I have read that the US press is reporting that his trip hasn't been wildly successfull, however, how much does the average US voter really care if he gaffs in the UK and Poland? And IsraelI'm no fan of Romney but to be fair to him I think that the media picked up on a few early thoughless statements and decided that they'd cover it as a "gaffe-prone trip". Hence his Press Secretary's ill-advised outburst in Poland. He's not helped himself though by refusing to take questions, which has irritated the media and probably spurred them on. He has actually been quite canny so far in not responding to the pro Obama US medias every criticism because his advisers realised that once he started commenting on everything the press said about him and his past then the press just wouldn't let go but if he kept quiet then the story would go away much quicker. It was working but this foreign trip has given the press something to get their teeth in to even though Romney's 'gaffes' have really been nothing of the sort. At least he has visited Israel, something which Obama has failed to do. I think he (or rather his advisors) have been quite canny. He's not only visited Israel, but places in Europe where a lot of the US electorate still sees as their 'homeland' - he's being seen to be going places Obama didn't care about and immediately appealing to the sections of the voting public who are nth generation 'Polish' etc. Plus of course the large Jewish community by visiting Israel. For a large part of the electorate, all he has to be is 'not Obama', and that's what this trip was designed to do, no-one back home cares if he expressed doubts about the olympics (they probably harboured the same doubts themselves) or if his press guy told someone to kiss his ass (again, Joe Sixpack probably prides himself on the fact that he'd do similar).
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davepoth
19,945 posts
68 months
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B Huey
4,881 posts
68 months
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God help us if Romney wins.
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