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unrepentant
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125 months
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TheHeretic said: The thing is, surely a right wing Republican will vote republican regardless. Having a right wing VP or not, they won't vote for the other guy surely? The only way I can think it would help is to get people voting who otherwise wouldn't be bothered to. The thing you have to remember is that a lot of the more right wing republicans don't like or trust Romney. Whilst they will not vote democrat the danger is that they may decide not to vote at all. The hope will be that the introduction of a right wing conservative will energise those voters and make them turn out (Palin). The danger of that approach is that the right wing conservative will turn off the swing voters and independents (Palin).
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TheHeretic
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124 months
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The 'otherwise wouldn't normally bother' folks I mentioned. I find it an odd situation, if I'm honest.
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Mermaid
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TheHeretic
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124 months
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Mermaid said: Should have been bold. Sorry, fixed.  
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Mermaid
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TheHeretic said: Mermaid said: Should have been bold. Sorry, fixed. Thank you  . Romney too should have been bold. 
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davepoth
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68 months
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Mermaid said: Thank you . Romney too should have been bold. I get the impression that Ryan is going to be Romney's "attack dog" for the rest of the campaign; partly because he's got the skills to go at Obama on the economy, and partly so that people don't keep asking difficult questions of Romney.
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dandarez
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Mermaid
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dandarez said: It's OK, he is merely trying to become the Commander in chief of the most powerful country in the world.  I am sure he will get better.
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stevejh
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73 months
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dandarez said: Well I think you'll find that Obama did the same thing back in 2008 when he introduced Biden as the 'next president of the United States' at their first joint campaign rally.
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martin84
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22 months
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dandarez said: I've seen it four times already today via what Jimbeaux will describe as biased British media  So long as he doesn't make a similar mistake in a Situation Room.... 'No! Wait! I meant Syria!'
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Dixie68
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56 months
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When Dubbya got his second term I was sat in a huge marquee tent in the Qatari desert watching it on a big screen. With me were about 20 other UK Army and RAF, some Aussie Air Force guys and a couple of hundred of American servicemen. When it was announced that George W. had won, the American contingent to a man jumped up whooping, clapping and cheering, while us non-US personnel sat open-mouthed, stunned that he'd won. We didn't trust him, mainly because we thought he was unbelievably stupid, and couldn't understand how the Americans didn't see that too.
With Romney I get that same feeling of unease - not because I think he's stupid but because to me he seems so 'false'. I can't really describe it any more than that; I have the same feeling about Ed Balls in this country, he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks.
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Asterix
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97 months
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Dixie68 said: ...he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks. Worked for Blair.
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stevejh
592 posts
73 months
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Asterix said: Dixie68 said: ...he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks. Worked for Blair. Also worked for Obama - until the autocue's not there.
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unrepentant
14,400 posts
125 months
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stevejh said: Asterix said: Dixie68 said: ...he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks. Worked for Blair. Also worked for Obama - until the autocue's not there. That's rubbish. Like him or not Obama is not a flip flopper. His policies on the big issues do not change, even if they are not always populist. Whereas Romney has flip flopped in the wind to try and suit his audience, from pro choice to pro life, pro gun control to anti gun control, pro healthcare to anti healthcare etc.....
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turbobloke
55,480 posts
129 months
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unrepentant said: stevejh said: Asterix said: Dixie68 said: ...he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks. Worked for Blair. Also worked for Obama - until the autocue's not there. That's rubbish. Like him or not Obama is not a flip flopper. His policies on the big issues do not change, even if they are not always populist. Whereas Romney has flip flopped in the wind to try and suit his audience, from pro choice to pro life, pro gun control to anti gun control, pro healthcare to anti healthcare etc..... Is it all relative? Last year the DT did a feature on BO's top ten flip flops. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100...
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stevejh
592 posts
73 months
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unrepentant said: stevejh said: Asterix said: Dixie68 said: ...he just seems to be saying what other people WANT him to say rather than what he really thinks. Worked for Blair. Also worked for Obama - until the autocue's not there. That's rubbish. Like him or not Obama is not a flip flopper. His policies on the big issues do not change, even if they are not always populist. Whereas Romney has flip flopped in the wind to try and suit his audience, from pro choice to pro life, pro gun control to anti gun control, pro healthcare to anti healthcare etc..... I never said he 'flip flopped' but he does seem to be saying what other people WANT him to say apart from times when he hasn't a script to follow. I really can't see why there's all this unquestioning love for Obama particularly by people on here who claim to be right of centre politically. I actually don't think Romney is the best candidate but I think he's preferable to Obama. I probably shouldn't have said that in this thread as it seems to have turned into an Obama love-in. I shall now sit back and wait for the inevitable abuse.
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IainT
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107 months
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TheHeretic said: martin84 said: That plan worked brilliantly for McCain.... Do you think he's had his chips?
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unrepentant
14,400 posts
125 months
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stevejh said: I really can't see why there's all this unquestioning love for Obama particularly by people on here who claim to be right of centre politically. Who's unquestioning? I question everything and I make my mind up on the issues not dogmatic views based on being "right of centre" or any other such BS. I supported the republican govenor of my state whilst supporting the democrats nationally. What are your qualifications for trashing Obama and why would you think that British conservatives would find him unpalatable? Are you a US resident and taxpayer? I am. You clearly have no idea what politically right of centre means in American terms. Obama is probably right of the current UK conservative leader FFS.
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Willie Dee
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77 months
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Jimbeaux
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100 months
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IainT said: unrepentant said: I have money on Obama. I also have a bet with a right wing colleague of mine with $100 going to the winners charity of choice from the loser. I'm torn between which charity I should have my Christian right wing republican colleague send his $100 to when Romney loses. Should I nominate planned parenthood or the National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce?  How about an Islamic outreach program or Atheist lobby group? I already donate my time to an Islamic outreach group (as some of them do likewise as well). Does that complicate my right wing status or screw up me being properly labeled do you think?
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