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DJRC
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105 months
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Has this really been reduced to a bunch of white people discussing what is and is not a racist insult when said by one white person to another white person revolving around a slang word for blacks? Do you lot not have mortgages to pay or something? Jobs to worry about? Pets to care for? Unrep...stop being anymore of an arse than you usually are. Jim...accept Romney is a dull nobody with all the personality, style, class and ability of a wet fish and stop worrying whether Unrep calls Jimcrow, Jimrook, Jimraven or even Mr cum covered spastic  wannabe. Sticks and stones may break my bones but all that really matters in life is beating France.
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Mermaid
12,492 posts
40 months
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Anyone think Ryan will upstage Romney?
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Countdown
6,339 posts
65 months
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Mermaid said: Anyone think Ryan will upstage Romney? Yes. Ryan appeals to the core if the GOP. Romney doesn't. Romney's having to fight two battles, Ryan isn't.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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chris watton said: I totally get it now.
If you do not agree with Obama or his policies, then be prepared to be branded a racist? Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names.
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TheHeretic
67,940 posts
124 months
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Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up.
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IainT
8,012 posts
107 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up. If one repeats a claim often enough and loud enough it becomes true.
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Countdown
6,339 posts
65 months
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IainT said: TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up. If one repeats a claim often enough and loud enough it becomes true. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3703Fair said: David Iglesias, the Republican U.S. attorney for New Mexico who was fired by the Bush administration, said that he looked at over 100 claims of alleged voter fraud but found not a single prosecutable case. “We cannot prosecute on rumor and innuendo,” Iglesias told the Albuquerque Journal (3/15/07). (His refusal to prosecute cases that he felt were bogus was a central feature in his firing, as it was in the cases of nearly half of the 12 U.S. attorneys ousted by the administration—Washington Post, 5/14/07.) Iglesias’ findings are consistent with national data. Federal records “show that only 24 people were convicted or pleaded guilty to illegal voting between 2002 and 2005” (Project Vote, 3/5/07). With regards to "Jim Crow" laws; Fair said: Meanwhile, a Wisconsin study by the Employment and Training Institute at the University of Wisconsin/Milwaukee (6/05) showed that requiring a state-issued ID like a driver’s license would have a highly disproportionate impact on blacks, Latinos and the elderly. “Among black males between ages 18 and 24, 78 percent lacked a driver’s license,” the study found (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/05). Of course, the fact that these laws have a disproportionately larger impact on the Democrat voter base could be purely incidental. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations...http://news.jornal.us/article-6630.The-Non-Existen...
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Willie Dee
1,495 posts
77 months
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chris watton said: I totally get it now.
If you do not agree with Obama or his policies, then be prepared to be branded a racist? What I was trying to say is that the racists who have joined in with the Tea Party Republicans have marred it to the point where sometimes it becomes indistinguishable, and that Jimbeaux seemed like a legitimate Republican, I don't see any blatant racism from him? Maybe there's Daily Mail style racism but that is rife on here anyway and no one has quoted anything from him that shows he has even displayed that.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up. That there was voting fraud. Too much to choose one. I will take a moment later and post.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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IainT said: TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up. If one repeats a claim often enough and loud enough it becomes true. The whole point is have an ID to prove the person voting is who they clsim they are. Why is that discrinimating against minorities? That is ridiculous. That law has already been upheld by the SCOTUS.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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Countdown said: IainT said: TheHeretic said: Jimbeaux said: Spot on. As to IDs hurting minorities, bulls t bthe IDs are largely free. What it does is hurt the ability of people being paid by precinct operatives to vote multiple times under different names. You have yet to give any evidence of that, Jimbeaux, last time you brought it up. If one repeats a claim often enough and loud enough it becomes true. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3703Fair said: David Iglesias, the Republican U.S. attorney for New Mexico who was fired by the Bush administration, said that he looked at over 100 claims of alleged voter fraud but found not a single prosecutable case. “We cannot prosecute on rumor and innuendo,” Iglesias told the Albuquerque Journal (3/15/07). (His refusal to prosecute cases that he felt were bogus was a central feature in his firing, as it was in the cases of nearly half of the 12 U.S. attorneys ousted by the administration—Washington Post, 5/14/07.) Iglesias’ findings are consistent with national data. Federal records “show that only 24 people were convicted or pleaded guilty to illegal voting between 2002 and 2005” (Project Vote, 3/5/07). With regards to "Jim Crow" laws; Fair said: Meanwhile, a Wisconsin study by the Employment and Training Institute at the University of Wisconsin/Milwaukee (6/05) showed that requiring a state-issued ID like a driver’s license would have a highly disproportionate impact on blacks, Latinos and the elderly. “Among black males between ages 18 and 24, 78 percent lacked a driver’s license,” the study found (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/05). Of course, the fact that these laws have a disproportionately larger impact on the Democrat voter base could be purely incidental. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/acorn-accusations...http://news.jornal.us/article-6630.The-Non-Existen... A state issued ID (not a driver's license), is free. What is the problem?????
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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Willie Dee said: chris watton said: I totally get it now.
If you do not agree with Obama or his policies, then be prepared to be branded a racist? What I was trying to say is that the racists who have joined in with the Tea Party Republicans have marred it to the point where sometimes it becomes indistinguishable, and that Jimbeaux seemed like a legitimate Republican, I don't see any blatant racism from him? Maybe there's Daily Mail style racism but that is rife on here anyway and no one has quoted anything from him that shows he has even displayed that. Thank you Sir.
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Mermaid
12,492 posts
40 months
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TheHeretic
67,940 posts
124 months
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Mermaid said: How is that opportunistic? There is a huge issue about women's health rights in this election with title X, contraception on the healthcare bill, etc.
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unrepentant
14,400 posts
125 months
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Mermaid said: Akin is a fool. At least Romney distanced himself from it but Akin's ludicrous views on abortion are shared by many many republicans, including a lot of very prominent ones.
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Countdown
6,339 posts
65 months
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Jimbeaux said: The whole point is have an ID to prove the person voting is who they clsim they are. Why is that discrinimating against minorities? That is ridiculous. That law has already been upheld by the SCOTUS. The law may have been upheld. OTOH there seems to be little evidence for the supposed reason for the law (voter fraud). Seems a blatant attempt at legal disenfranchisement to me. Having said that I agree with the principle of having ID in order to vote. The whole Jim Crow thing could have been avoided if States had implemented program's to assist people with voter registration at the same time these requirements were being imposed.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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Countdown said: Jimbeaux said: The whole point is have an ID to prove the person voting is who they clsim they are. Why is that discrinimating against minorities? That is ridiculous. That law has already been upheld by the SCOTUS. The law may have been upheld. OTOH there seems to be little evidence for the supposed reason for the law (voter fraud). Seems a blatant attempt at legal disenfranchisement to me. Having said that I agree with the principle of having ID in order to vote. The whole Jim Crow thing could have been avoided if States had implemented program's to assist people with voter registration at the same time these requirements were being imposed. So you do agree that someone having an ID to vote is not unreasonable, good. There are very active organizations doing voter registration drives. These are local, as that is where votes are tallied even in national elections. On a national level, voter registration cards are mailed along with other official government correspondence. State issued IDs can be had for free in most cases. Iif a person has a job, they have to have an ID to have been hired. If a person is out of work, they likely receive some sort of benefit, in which case, they must have an ID to claim said benefit. It is fishy the uproar over needing one for voting when the same people have one for evrything else in life.
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Countdown
6,339 posts
65 months
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Jimbeaux said: So you do agree that someone having an ID to vote is not unreasonable, Nope - never did. However the Republicans reasons for implementing new laws (which have not been needed in the past) suggest ulterior motives such as disenfranchisement.
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Countdown
6,339 posts
65 months
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unrepentant said: Mermaid said: Akin is a fool. At least Romney distanced himself from it but Akin's ludicrous views on abortion are shared by many many republicans, including a lot of very prominent ones. "Legitimate" rape ? Unbelievable.
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Jimbeaux
25,725 posts
100 months
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Countdown said: Jimbeaux said: So you do agree that someone having an ID to vote is not unreasonable, Nope - never did. However the Republicans reasons for implementing new laws (which have not been needed in the past) suggest ulterior motives such as disenfranchisement. What many miss is that such ID laws are supported by both Democrats and GOPers. It is the very left end of the Dems that are making noise about it. The latest judge that threw out the case against ID laws is a Dem. 
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