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Baryonyx
7,050 posts
29 months
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Hopefully the copper who turned up to take on the gunman will pull through, fingers crossed.
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PeanutHead
7,555 posts
40 months
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Blib said: If they armed every single person in America with concealed weapons, would that end gun related deaths?   Due to the fact they blame the individual, guns don't kill people as people kill people with weapons.
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Blib
20,899 posts
67 months
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PeanutHead said: Blib said: If they armed every single person in America with concealed weapons, would that end gun related deaths? Due to the fact they blame the individual, guns don't kill people as people kill people with weapons. And, they wouldn't be the first to open fire as they would know that everyone, including babes-in-arms was packin' Problem solved!
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martin84
5,366 posts
23 months
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PeanutHead said: Blib said: If they armed every single person in America with concealed weapons, would that end gun related deaths? Due to the fact they blame the individual, guns don't kill people as people kill people with weapons. Soldiers die in wars.
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RobDickinson
15,269 posts
124 months
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Blib said: If they armed every single person in America with concealed weapons, would that end gun related deaths? I can imagine how that would go down in a dark cinema, and how do the police know which shooter is the nutter and which dozen or so are just firing in self defence? American gun deaths are crazy, out of control , they have multiple mass shootings a year yet no one is talking about gun contriol.
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Blib
20,899 posts
67 months
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RobDickinson said: Blib said: If they armed every single person in America with concealed weapons, would that end gun related deaths? I can imagine how that would go down in a dark cinema, and how do the police know which shooter is the nutter and which dozen or so are just firing in self defence? American gun deaths are crazy, out of control , they have multiple mass shootings a year yet no one is talking about gun contriol. It's a tragedy for the country, it really is. Lives wasted. Day after day. Many for no reason whatsoever, other than the fact that the perpetrator was carrying a gun. Such a terrible waste.
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mrmr96
12,044 posts
74 months
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RobDickinson said: I can imagine how that would go down in a dark cinema, and how do the police know which shooter is the nutter and which dozen or so are just firing in self defence? Not only the police, but the other citizens. Imagine if they didn't see the first shooter, only the response from the first protector? They could easily take them out by accident, thinking they were the aggressor. Would need good laws in place to make sure people only opened fire when they were sure.
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martin84
5,366 posts
23 months
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mrmr96 said: Not only the police, but the other citizens. Imagine if they didn't see the first shooter, only the response from the first protector? They could easily take them out by accident, thinking they were the aggressor. Would need good laws in place to make sure people only opened fire when they were sure. So arming everybody could either result in a large scale mexican stand off with no casualties or a full scale civil war.
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Blib
20,899 posts
67 months
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For f  k's sake, I was being ironic when I suggested arming everyone. 
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RobDickinson
15,269 posts
124 months
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Blib said: For f k's sake, I was being ironic when I suggested arming everyone. But thats Americas solution...
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172ff
1,429 posts
65 months
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Guns don't kill people rappers do!
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rohrl
3,938 posts
15 months
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How awful. A doctor at the hospital dealing with casualties has just
said that having three gunshot trauma victims in at the same time is nothing out of the ordinary for his hospital.
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eldar
7,038 posts
66 months
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Blib said: For f k's sake, I was being ironic when I suggested arming everyone. Huh? Packing irony?
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Pickled Piper
5,185 posts
105 months
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Blib said: TheHeretic said: PeanutHead said: Sikh temple, any significance or just random? Well, that would have to be determined before considering it a hate crime, (not that someone on a shooting spree does not have hate as a motive somewhere) Wouldn't surprise me if the murderer thought that the poor souls were Muslims. It could be a hate crime. Sikhs were targeted in the USA after 9/11. The perpetrators mistaking them for Muslims. Reports did state the perpetrator in this case was a white male. Could also be a Temple dispute. Sikhs are renowned for fighting amongst themselves especially where control of a Temple is involved. pp
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Colonial
9,901 posts
75 months
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Reports are now tricking in that the gunman was white with a 9/11 tat.
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MadMullah
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63 months
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Dav_s
1,547 posts
62 months
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Blib said: Wouldn't surprise me if the murderer thought that the poor souls were Muslims. This. As a Sikh, this has really hit me. Gutted.
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Digga
10,942 posts
153 months
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Dav_s said: Blib said: Wouldn't surprise me if the murderer thought that the poor souls were Muslims. This. As a Sikh, this has really hit me. Gutted. This was also my first reaction to the tragic news - some moron who cannot spot the difference between Sikhs and Muslims. (Not that gunning down random Muslims is to be condened.)
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Dav_s
1,547 posts
62 months
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Digga said: This was also my first reaction to the tragic news - some moron who cannot spot the difference between Sikhs and Muslims. (Not that gunning down random Muslims is to be condened.) Craziness + Ignorance = recipe for disaster 
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Colonial
9,901 posts
75 months
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Dav_s said: Craziness + Ignorance = recipe for disaster I'll go further. Craziness + Ignorance + Easy access to guns and ammunition = even bigger recipe for disaster.
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